Difficulty: Moderate-Hard (3.5/5)
Final Rating: 19
Ranking at Time of Posting: 25/134 (19%)
Fargoal has been called a roguelike, but I think that gives the game a little too much credit. Although I enjoyed it, it's more of an arcade game than an RPG, and it doesn't have any of Rogue's complexity when it comes to inventory, enemies, and combat. Its only roguelike features are permadeath and a randomly-generated map that slowly fills in as you explore. In difficulty, I found it to be the inverse of Rogue: easy on the way down, almost impossible on the way up.
When I saw the name coming up on my list, it rang a bell, but I didn't think I had ever played it before. But after I fired it up, saw the font, and started hearing the sounds, it triggered a four-hour episode of déjà vu. I'm pretty sure I played it with a friend and we giggled like idiots every time we found a "magic sack." I also broke into a cold sweat when I encountered a "war lord," so this must have been my bête noire at an earlier age.
The framing story tells the tale of the Protectorate Sword, a blade that, when wielded by someone good, could vanquish any evil. It was kept in a temple in the land of Ferrin for good-hearted warriors to pick up in a time of need. One day, a young fighter named Gedwyn was asked to fetch the sword and use it against a dragon terrorizing a forest. With thoughts of glory in his mind, he retrieved the weapon and rode to the forest, only to find it was all a lie. An evil wizard named Umla had tricked him into bringing him the sword so he could throw it deep in a dungeon, where no one could use it to stop his plans of conquest. The player is an unnamed hero who vows to find the blade for Gedwyn.
The sword lies somewhere between Level 15 and Level 20. For all of the levels above, you're fighting monsters, gaining experience, finding magic items and spells, and collecting treasures. Once you have the sword, the game starts a timer of 2000 seconds (about 33 minutes), and you have to exit the dungeon, with the sword, during that time, or you lose.
The game was originally written for the Commodore VIC-20 in 1982, then improved for the Commodore 64 a year later. It's the C64 version that most people remember, and the one I'm playing. This is my first game with a C64 emulator; I'm using VICE, and it's been a breeze--a far more satisfying experience than the nightmare I've had emulating Amiga games.
It's meant to to be played with a joystick and keyboard in combination, but the interesting thing is that the keyboard is mostly optional. The joystick moves you around the dungeon. If you move on top of a monster, you automatically attack. If you move on top of a treasure, you automatically pick it up. The button activates "panic mode," which spends the appropriate spell to get you out of a tough situation. If your hit points fall below 0, you automatically drink a healing potion if you have one. The button also takes you up and down stairs if you're standing on them. Technically, that's all you need. With the keyboard, you can fine-tune your gameplay by casting certain spells when you want to cast them, but you could get by without it if your preference is to play while sitting on the couch with a drool bucket.
There's no character creation; everyone starts with 11 hit points, a battle skill of 9, one healing potion, and one teleport spell. As the game begins, you can only see a few squares around you. As you explore, the automap slowly fills in. Unlike Rogue and most other roguelikes, you can see monsters in any area that you've already explored. Other than monsters, there are several things to watch for as you explore levels:
1. Trap/treasure squares. These squares may have a trap or may have a treasure. You don't find out until you step on it. If it's a trap, and you act quickly by pressing the button, you might be able to avoid its effects if you have the proper spell. For instance, the "teleport" spell will whisk you away from a ceiling trap. The "shield" spell blocks an explosion trap.
This one was a trap. |
Treasures include a variety of spells--invisibility, regeneration, teleport, shield, drift, light--magic sacks (allow you to carry more gold), magic maps of other levels, teleportation beacons, enchantments for your weapon, and healing potions. There is otherwise no weapon or armor inventory in the game.
2. Gold. There's nothing to buy in the game, but you can amass gold pieces and turn them in at temples for extra experience points. You can carry 100 gold pieces plus 100 more for every "magic sack" that you have. Excess gold can be buried and retrieved later.
3. Temples. There's one temple per level. Not only does it convert gold to experience, it serves as a permanent "Elbereth" square; no monster will attack while you're standing on one. This makes it an ideal place to regenerate hit points.
I'm standing on a temple. None of those monsters will attack me until I feel like leaving and bringing the fight to them. |
Combat is absolutely bereft of tactics but fun nonetheless. You enter combat when you occupy the same square as an enemy. The game immediately goes into Batman mode, annotating rounds of combat with exclamations like "Growl!," "Shriek!," "Thud," "Clink, "Clang," "Shred," and "Ouch!" Each is accompanied by an appropriate sound effect (as well as a little two-note victory tune at the end). You can't see the damage you're doing to your foe during these rounds, but you watch your own hit point total slowly deplete, and there are some wonderfully tense moments as you sit there thinking, "He'll die this round, right? No? Next time?" All the while, your hit points are going from 70 to 55 to 43 to 39 to 21. "Oh, come on!" you cry, your hand over the joystick button, ready to run or teleport away when you cross some threshold.
Part of a combat round. |
Your combat skill and hit point totals are determined by your level. The number of experience points required for each level-up doubles every time, so you plateau by dungeon level 10 or so.
Monsters do get more difficult as you head downward, but that isn't the real dynamic of the game. The more important element is the variance between the time given to the player and enemies in each turn--a system I've seen nowhere else. Unlike most games, where you trade turn-for-turn with enemies, in Fargoal, you start at a huge advantage, able to move 10 or 12 times for every one of the monsters' movements. (Monsters' turns are highlighted with a sort-of droning sound, the one sound effect in the game that I didn't like.) You could literally run circles around them. Unless you're unlucky enough to blunder into them in the hallways, you never have to fight a single monster. The ratio gets smaller as you descend the levels, and by the time you're on the level with the Sword of Fargoal, it's close to 1:1.
There are a lot of enemies in this room, but it's an early level, so I can easily keep away from them. |
(Elaborating on the above: technically, the game isn't turn-based, and monsters will move if you just stand there. The variance between your time and theirs is not in movements but in time. However, it's more complicated than that, because if you just stand still, your turn ends sooner than if you move constantly during the turn. If you change movement direction during the turn, you'll get fewer moves than if you go a consistent direction. The game thus uses an odd hybrid between turn-based and time-based movement.)
The major combat tactic in the game is to always be sure that you're the one who attacks. If a monster attacks you, it's a fight to the death unless you have a "teleport" spell. But if you attack the enemy, you can flee at any time--and because of the turn variance, you can usually get a few squares away. In tandem, these two elements have a number of implications, such as exploring corridors slowly and trying not to end up right next to a monster when your turn's time runs out.
Victory! |
The fact that you almost always have a movement advantage makes the early game fairly easy (which is nice, since death is permanent). You just have to keep on your toes and flee when your hit points get too low. Health slowly regenerates when you stand around, and if you can find a temple--where monsters won't attack you--you've got it made. Stand on the temple until you get back to your maximum, then go attack whatever monsters you want. If they "clang" and "crunch" you too low, run away and go back to the temple.
I wish I could remember playing this when I was a kid, because I suspect 11-year-old Chet was too impatient to just stand there on a temple, waiting for his hit points to recharge. I'll bet he wandered around at half-health for most of the game. Using an emulator, it's easy to cheat this process by standing on a temple and cranking up the CPU speed, passing in three seconds what might have taken five minutes in normal gameplay. The only way to honestly speed up the regeneration process in-game is the "regeneration" spell.
Most monsters just do melee damage, but a few have special attacks. Mages can utterly wipe away your accumulated magic spells. Thieves and monks can steal your treasure, though it's easy to chase them down and get it back. Assassins are invisible unless they're in the square right next to you; they like to linger by stairs. Demons drain experience levels.
The levels are randomly generated, and they change each time you leave and return, so there's no point taking screen shots for the way back up. Sometimes, the random generation produces odd results, such as half-levels where you can't get from one side to the other. (There are no secret doors.) Although I didn't experience it, I've read that some players get to the Sword of Fargoal level and, after thorough exploration, find that the random designer made it impossible to get through the maze to the sword. They have to go up and come back.
A half-level. There are monsters and treasures out there, but I won't be able to get to them. |
In such an environment, the magic map treasure is probably the most valuable item in the game. It immediately reveals an entire level--treasures, monsters, temple, stairs, everything. You can "lose" your memory of the map when you step in a trap. There's nothing more annoying than having a magic map of a level only to lose it the first time you step into a trap/treasure square.
I arrive on a level for which I have a map. The screen slowly boxes in from the outside. |
In between levels, you get an update of your character status and inventory; you can't otherwise call these up. After you get the sword, these transition screens also display the remaining time.
The two transition screens between levels. I'm doing all right. |
I'm not going to pretend that I won the game without cheating. My goal in these "backtracking" posts is more to fully document the games than to play by my normal rules, and I wasn't eager for dozens of gameplay hours, no matter how much I liked it. I used save states a few times on the way down, and constantly on the way back up.
As I noted, the way down isn't too hard with a little planning and patience. You can avoid most fights, flee from the ones you initiate, and heal up in between them. If you save teleport spells for when you need to escape from the rare fight that the enemy initiates, you're fine.
The level with the titular sword looks different from all the others--a maze rather than a series of rooms. I was lucky enough to have found a map of the level, so it was easy to get to the sword once I arrived. There's no special protection around the sword.
Finding the sword on the maze level. |
Once you pick up the sword, however, the game fundamentally changes. From that moment, you have 33 minutes to get back to the surface, so to the best extent possible, you want to go stairway to stairway. No fighting, no gold, no treasures, no temples. The problem is that you have to re-explore all the levels on the way up. Sometimes you get really lucky, like this . . .
. . . and other times, you have to reveal the entire level to find the stairs.
This one would have taken a long time to find if I hadn't cheated. |
Making it even worse, any enemy who attacks you (as opposed to you attacking them) steals the sword and immediately disappears. The sword returns to the level on which you found it, and the clock doesn't stop running. Thus, unless this happens only a level or so away from where you found it in the first place, you almost certainly don't have time to go back down, grab it again, and return to the surface. You want to avoid enemies like the plague. This is a time to burn all your accumulated "invisibility" spells.
Magic maps on the way up are a mixed blessing. It's great that you can see the way to the stairway, but the map takes about half a minute to draw, and this time is deducted from your clock.
I cheated horribly during this section by saving a save state at the beginning of each dungeon level, finding the stairs, then re-loading and heading immediately for them. Even doing that, I reached the top with only eight minutes to spare, so I can imagine how tense it must have been on the original system. Legions of players must have found the sword and made their way towards the surface, only to run out of time on the fifth level or have the sword stolen on the third. I shout enough when I fail timed missions in Assassin's Creed; I can't imagine the howling I'd produce after spending four hours on this game only to run out the clock with a couple levels to go.
Making it back to the first-level stairway, with the sword in hand. |
It really does take that long. You had to be prepared to invest some serious time in Sword of Fargoal. My winning game took 4.5 hours of gameplay time. It wasn't that long for me, because some of that time was spend standing on temples and letting the CPU run at "warp" speed, but it would have been that long on original equipment. There's no saving it for later, and no bathroom breaks until you find a temple. That must have been brutal.
The "winning" screen. |
If you make it, you get a message that says "Your quest is complete!" and then a screen of your overall statistics. If the clock runs out, next time you change levels, you get a message that says "out of time!" but then it takes you to the same statistics screen. Except for that brief flash of "Out of time!" or "Your quest is complete!" you wouldn't really be able to tell if someone won the game or not.
My only proof. |
In any event, this is not a game intended to be covered in one sitting, "won," and put away. It's meant to take a lot of tries, perhaps never fully won, with players comparing times and experience levels. Part of me wants to see how many tries it would take to win it honestly, or if it would be possible to win the game without fighting a single combat. I actually tried the latter, but I only made it to Level 5 before I got killed by a ceiling trap.
As I said, although it's fun, innovative, and charming, Sword of Fargoal isn't much of a role-playing game under classic definitions, and it doesn't do terribly well in the GIMLET, earning only a score of 19. Its highest categories are "graphics, sound, and interface" and "gameplay" (both 4s), but it loses out on no NPCs, almost no economy, limited combat tactics, and not much of an inventory. Don't pay attention to the score. Enjoy it on its own terms.
Sword of Fargoal was developed by Jeff McCord and published by Epyx; it is notably one of only three RPGs from Epyx outside the Dunjonquest series. The manual boasts production qualities characteristic of Epyx: strong writing, stylish formatting (most manuals of the era were written on a typewriter), and evocative images.
A couple of manual pages. |
Like some of the other developers we've seen recently, McCord was something of a one-hit wonder. Fargoal was his only game. The Wikipedia article on the game has an inadequately-cited account that states he started working on the game in 1979, calling it Gammaquest II (we are left to wonder what it has to do with gamma, or what the first Gammaquest was). When Epyx picked it up for publication, McCord wanted to call it Fargaol ("far jail"), but Epyx insisted on reversing the two vowels. McCord's MobyGames bio says that after Fargoal, he worked on a science fiction game for Electronic Arts but never finished it. He got out of the game business for a while and instead simultaneously ran a graphic design company and a couple of home restoration businesses.
In 2003, Paul Pridham and Elias Pschernig made a PC remake of Fargoal. In a 2011 Macmodo interview, McCord recounts that when they showed it to him, he was impressed but reminded them that it was copyrighted. Rather than ask them to desist, he suggested they start a company and market it. This endeavor became Fargoal, LLC, and they produced versions of the game for iOS in 2009 and for the Mac in 2010. In 2012, they ran a successful Kickstarter campaign to create Sword of Fargoal 2. (Incredibly, they did not use the opportunity to set a regular goal and a "far goal." Seriously, guys. That one wrote itself.) I'm not sure what the sequel's current status is.
The iOS version of the game. |
So there you have it: a game that fails most RPG criteria, but I liked it anyway, and moreover, I can see why people remember it fondly and want to buy updated versions today. It didn't do everything I want out of an RPG, but amongst the things that it did, it didn't do anything wrong.
Next up: Spirit of Excalibur (1990), followed by Empire II: Interstellar Sharks, now that I have a copy.
I got the pc version, and for every 2000 gold you donated at a shrine it fully healed you. Also I found the sword on level 15, only to attack a monster on lvl 11 or 12 and them steal it from me, I tried to go back down to get it but it wasn't on lvl 15 anymore, so it might be random where it ends up if you lose it. Maybe it's the pc version. It certainly gets hectic at the ends, the monsters are literally flying around the map.
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I remember a game that was sort of like this for my Apple IIe back in the day, but it doesn't seem that this hit that platform. I remember it being a maze. I think you had to go down levels and get something. I remember there being treasures and monsters, and I remember it being balls hard.
ReplyDeleteAnyone have any idea?
Was it Sword of Kadash, maybe? Much like this, it wasn't quite an RPG, but was a heck of a lot of fun.
DeleteThanks for the stab (pun not intended), but I don't think this was it. I wish I knew more.
Delete"I also broke into a cold sweat when I encountered a "war lord," so this must have been my bête noire at an earlier age."
ReplyDelete"Bête noire" sent me to dictionary.com
"a person or thing strongly detested or avoided"
"French, literally, black beast"
"First Known Use: 1828"
Learn something new every day!
Most obsessive RPG addicts I know have some familiarity with Japanese due to Japan's strong involvement in the genre, but this and your efforts to play a French-only RPG clearly show what your favorite non-English langue is. :)
Not at all. Show me a Spanish or Italian-only RPG and I'll absolutely devour it.
DeleteItalian-only RPG? :O Now I wonder if they were ever made!
DeleteThanks for the write-up of Fargoal!
ReplyDeleteThis is one of my earliest memories of a computer game (together with Scramble and Pacman). We had a VIC-20 and I remember my brothers playing this for a day (but I wouldn't remember any details, I was 3 or 4 years old at the time) and then it broke down with a "Syntax Error" (it was written in Basic for the VIC-20 at least). I don't think that game got played much after that. :)
I used to play this as a kid on a C64. Never got very far, probably not over the 10th level. From what I remember, I thought it was nice that you could use traps to your advantage. You could skip levels by entering a pit. An enemy who stepped on one of these fields would also disappear I think.
ReplyDeletePaul Pridham is an old associate and an all-around swell guy. I'm glad his remake is mentioned, as it's gotten a lot of love by people that like SoF. I believe some of the art in the remake is by Graham Lackey as well, one of the best pixel artists around.
ReplyDeleteTwo things you should know about the VICE emulator.
ReplyDeleteFirst, it has the option to disable "true drive emulation", instead simplifying the disk access. Never use this (in other words, leave "true drive emulation" on. It is an option intended to reduce the infamous load times from the hardware platform, but it causes severe bugs and crashes in some games, and modern computers run the emulator so easily that you can just Alt+W into warp mode instead.
Second, a small number of games released late in the lifespan of the C-64 (Ultima V being the most notable example, although you obviously won't be playing that one) were too much for the aging platform's limited RAM, and ran much better on the Commodore 128 (Ultima V, for example, had excellent music if played on a 128, and was silent on the 64. I don't have a list of these handy, but the x128.exe file will load up a Commodore 128 emulator if you encounter one. (Likewise, there are emulators for the Commodore PET (xpet), Vic-20 (xvic), CMB-II (xcmb2), and the Commodore plus 4 (xplus4). This will save you considerable time if your backtracking covers any of those systems)
I think my Dad used an expansion cartridge to boost his RAM....
DeleteThere was a 512K RAM expander for the C-128, a huge thing that plugged into the back. I never found a program that used it except for Cnet BBS software (with 80 column mode and the extra RAM the 128 was a pretty good machine for running an 80s-era BBS).
DeleteReminds me of LARN ... hey, is this gem missing on your list?
ReplyDeleteIt was on my list:
Deletehttp://crpgaddict.blogspot.com/2010/08/game-21-larn-1986.html
I covered it back in the early days and didn't do a very good job. Maybe I'll revisit it at some point.
I'm surprised to hear that you played Assassin's Creed, since it seems a little bit out of your wheelhouse. I would be interested to hear what you thought of it, which ones you played, etc. (I assume it would get rather a low GIMLET due to not being a proper RPG)
ReplyDeleteI've played the first three. I enjoy the occasional action/adventure game the same way that a person who enjoys fine steaks can still enjoy a cheeseburger now and then. They're a good way to relax and settle the mind after a hard day of work (action games, not cheeseburgers). A good RPG rarely relaxes me in the same way.
DeleteThough AC treads very close to RPG territory. I suppose the big difference is that all character development is either plot-driven or through inventory upgrades rather than inherent attributes.
A lot of games add RPG elements now. Most of the good sandbox games are skirting the line between RPG and action games. They already have somewhat open worlds to explore which until recently was largely a feature of RPGs. To keep with the line analogy Skyrim is in a lot of ways looking at the same places from the other side.
DeleteDo you think Skyrim did anything that the previous Elder Scrolls games didn't, though? They've always been action-focused in combat.
DeleteSkyrim simplified the leveling by removing stats. Makes it way more accessible.
DeleteThe Elder Scrolls is one of the longest running still active RPGs series. And Arena, Daggerfall, and Morrowind had really bad action combat that got progressively less bad. (I know someone is going to violently disagree with the above.) After Morrowind there is a progression to make things less complex. Fewer weapon types, slots, stat simplification, quest markers on the compass, etc.
I agree with everything you say; I just don't know if I see it straying to action game territory. I thought the loss of attributes was regrettable, but compensated for in the extensive "perk" system--a type of character development that you don't really see in action games. The skill system was simplified, yes, but still far more complex than what you find in most RPGs, let alone action games.
DeleteCombat, though occurring in real-time, is fundamentally based on statistics rather than reflexes. An action-game player who goes into Skyrim thinking that his controller dexterity is going to help against a giant is going to be in for a sudden and fatal trip across Tamriel. Yes, there are some limited dodge movements you can do, but for the most part, you need to up your defense and attack statistics, or you won't be around long.
In short, most of the complaints I have about Skyrim (limited choices in quests, shallow dialogue options, no encouragement for the player to stick to a consistent ethos) are endemic to the entire series or things that might be BAD (quest markers) but don't suggest (to me) a drift into action game territory.
Towards action game, not into. I would't say Assassin's Creed is in RPG territory yet either just drifting towards it.
DeleteJust talking about the combat, In Morrowind remember how you could physically see a hit on the enemy but weather you actually hit was based on statistics? But since Oblivion if you hit you hit but only the damage is based on stats, indication a drift towards action.
Oh, that's true. I forgot you could miss in Morrowind.
DeleteA note from the amiga emulators, they are a nightmare because most programmers "struck straight to the hardware" when programming to speed up the games.
ReplyDeleteSo although the games ran smoother it created an unforeseen problem for emulators when those games were made to run only in specific combinations (mainly 68000 and only 512kt chip only ie. a bog standard A500) and some games had problems with the added fast ram even on A500's heyday which is why memory boards were often shipped with an off switch.
Yep, Fargoal is a classic dungeon crawler, but not a classic crpg.
ReplyDeleteThe simplified joystick-enabled system plus the great sound effects remind me of Questron. I wonder if there was any cross-pollination there.
ReplyDeleteUpdate on Fargoal 2, Nov. 9:
ReplyDeletehttp://forums.fargoal.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=222
I am currently in the process of working on solutions for bringing in my coding power to the project. Our beta has progressed slowly-but-surely, fixing bugs and continuing to work on features. But it has been clear for a while that we need additional coding support.
The good news is that, unlike some other Kickstarter campaigns, we have *not* blown through our budget. We've been very conservative with our spending, and Paul and I have been very careful not to draw out funds for ourselves from the Kickstarter support we've received. We are working toward putting the support money toward coding dollars and graphics, as promised in the campaign.
Is there any way that we true believers can get digital copies of Empire II: Interstellar Sharks so that we may play this "ancient gem" as well? This aging Gadfly would certainly love to give it a go.
ReplyDelete"... making it one of the only games of the era that I wouldn't dream of playing with the sound off."
ReplyDeleteI always thought that you were probably being too critical in the sounds department, without really knowing what the games sounded like. But if this passes as great, then I guess you haven't been too critical.
"There's no saving it for later, and no bathroom breaks until you find a temple. That must have been brutal."
I've played games for more than 24 hours straight, with no breaks whatsoever. A couple of hours is considered brutal?
My first blog post is up! *shameless promotion*
ReplyDeleteYou can take a look at it here: http://kosherview.blogspot.ca/2014/01/what-have-i-got-myself-into.html
I'm still working on the release date list. The early JRPG titles are difficult to pin down in North America, not to mention that there's a lot of mislabeled titles in the MobyGames database.
So far, Wikipedia and GameFAQs have been the most reliable sources. Does anyone have any suggestions/advice?
This was the first game I bought for my first computer Commodore-64 in 1986. I had no idea what this was. I only picked it because of the cover. I did have quite some fun with it even though I never fully understood it at the time (my english wasn´t that good then). I think I managed to get the sword at some point but never completed the game. It was extremely hard but still I love the sound effects and it created vivid imaginations at that time.
ReplyDeletePlayed the game right away after reading this! This is my first C64 game as well. A few personal notes you might find interesting:
ReplyDelete* I think sound is necessary to play this game, since the drone-like sound effect reflects the proximity of monsters to some extent. If you hear a super long drone, it means that more than one enemy has spotted you and is approaching.
* During my ascent with the sword, I found myself in a "half-level", with the stairs in the other half obviously. I used a teleport spell and surprisingly it brought me almost right next to them.
* From level 15 down, staying at the temple didn't work for me. I was being constantly attacked by all kind of monsters. Also, on one occasion the temple disappeared from under my feet at level 4 after I stayed there for a ridiculous amount of hours (went out to buy food).
* I used C64 Forever to play the game, and for some reason I couldn't benefit from any "turbo" functionality. It took me 3 days to reach the titular sword without cheating.
* Although I cheated in the ascent phase, it wasn't strictly necessary (except when the sword gets stolen). Exploring the dungeon, especially from level 10 up, does not take as much as it seems. The light spell slows you down though. I believe with a bit of luck it could be done within the time limit.
* I found the sword at level 19, and it was right next to me as I entered the dungeon. I didn't even suspect the level is maze-like until I saw your snapshot again.
* During one playthrough I fell in a pit at level 11 and found myself at level 14 (it didn't go well after that).
* Part of these game mechanics were followed almost to the letter in Dream Master, a lightweight JRPG for the Famicom from 1992. In that game, dungeons are engulfed in a magic haze that you dissipate as you keep exploring; sound effects indicate the presence of monsters and get louder as monsters get closer; however, battles are turn-based and the game as a whole is much easier.
Thanks for the additional information. It's interesting how the random nature of the game world creates different experiences, such as getting lucky and finding the sword right away.
DeleteI don't know how to explain the temple thing. Maybe I didn't hover at any of them after Level 15 and just tried to get through the levels as quickly as possible.
maybe offtopic, but if you are getting familiar with VICE and C64 emulators, i'll suggest to put Newcomer on your radar, a very good rpg.
ReplyDeleteYes, it's already on my list for 1994.
DeleteI am not surprised that the C64 has good emulators, it is the best selling computer of all time. Look how many I have managed to get for free.
ReplyDeleteThere is all sorts of cool stuff about it. You could use a Genesis controller on it, as they used standardized ports. There was an alternate OS for it that did everything in..... Lisp? Prolog? Something like that, instead of basic. Commodore BASIC had a lot of issues, such as finite variable names so you had to use arrays on it just to have enough variables. Also I think the C64 is locked to an older version of Commadore BASIC.
My Dad wrote a program called Starfleet Boomskie so he and his freinds could play the wargame Starfleet Battles without doing any math.
The C64 was the first computer I used, though I don't remember using it. It seems I loved some action game where you walk around stabbing spiders and bugs in a forest or something like that.
Oh and some of my earliest memories are of Dad playing Elite on it.
Farfuture Fargoal 2 update: The last Kickstarter message from the developers was something in May 2020 apologizing for not posting for the last year or so and saying there would be monthly updates going forward, and the project was not dead. Well, here we are 2.5 years later and no monthly updates yet.
ReplyDeleteThe project did release a playable build of the game and even though it sucks that they seem to eventually just give up on it, I had more fun playing the alpha build than I have had playing several final release games I randomly bought from Steam, so I arguably even got my like $10 worth or whatever the lowest possible pledge was.
I think I know why the game feels like a roguelike without actually being one. Jeff McCord's Gammaquest II game was based on Brian Sawyer's game Dungeon (also for Commodore PET) published in the cassette magazine CURSOR in 1979, a roguelike before Rogue.
ReplyDeleteSword of Fargoal and Dungeon match exactly in the layout of the screen, as well as in the statistics and the order in which they are displayed on it. Also in how combats begin when a character or monster enters the other's square.
The funny thing is that by adding the objective of recovering the sword, magic items, traps and stairs to change levels, the game ended up looking more like Rogue.
I want to believe that this resemblance is coincidence and that the author really only introduced the typical D&D elements, but then there is the matter of the labyrinthine level where the sword is found. It's exactly the same as the first versions of Hack, which shipped in early 1982, the year Jeff McCord ported his Gammaquest II to VIC-20 as Sword of Fargoal.
When I publish my article about the game, I will try to contact the author to ask him, but I think the influence of Commodore PET's Dungeon is clear, the influence of Hack is the most doubtful, but why the authors of two unrelated roguelike games from the same year decide that the level where the target magic item is located is a maze of corridors in contrast to the levels of rooms and corridors in the rest of the dungeon?
Man, you do a great job with these connections. I didn't see it even though i've played all those games.
DeleteI wonder if there's also something to be said about Epyx producing both SoF and then the commercial version of Rogue. There's a three-year gap, though.
I haven't gotten a response from Jeff McCord, but after completing the VIC-20 version it turns out that there is no final labyrinth level, the Sword of Fargoal is on a normal level, with corridors and rooms.
DeleteFor some reason they changed this when porting the game to Commodore 64, and it's not the only change they made. In VIC-20 there are no beacons and no wandering monsters appear.