tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post6186206727272869055..comments2024-03-29T09:18:29.803-04:00Comments on The CRPG Addict: Game 406: Dungeon! Computer Adventure Game (1982)CRPG Addicthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-14194596214114249752021-04-13T12:01:14.190-04:002021-04-13T12:01:14.190-04:00Haven't played Gloomhaven itself, but I am in ...Haven't played Gloomhaven itself, but I am in the middle of the Jaws of the Lion prequel campaign. And I have to say, that Gloomhaven isn't a newb friendly casual game (although I do play as the Voidwarden, which I gather might be the least straightforward to play of the four characters), which I gather is what the Addict is looking for. And the story is truly awful, but the game mechanics are very good, and enough to keep going with it.<br /><br />Talisman on the other hand is nice casual game to play with non gamers.Mikko Anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-78075075478996662142021-04-01T14:15:42.358-04:002021-04-01T14:15:42.358-04:00I've heard that line of work leaves a very bad...I've heard that line of work leaves a very bad taste in your mouth.Tipihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11416637333851125884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-43770383188517043602021-03-28T23:21:15.356-04:002021-03-28T23:21:15.356-04:00"There are five "levels" to explore..."There are five "levels" to explore--really just five screens."<br /><br />Well, Rogue and NetHack do the same thing. It's just that each level here isn't as exciting.<br /><br />That purple worm is so cute. Between it and the Superhero, did this game's artist get influenced by anime/manga? Were Japanese CRPGs even around at this point? I know in 1982 we're definitely not yet at Dragon Quest and its huge artistic influence. Back in a while, gonna adopt me a purple worm.P-Tux7https://www.blogger.com/profile/03201162995038006540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-59417004830004932112021-03-27T22:24:02.405-04:002021-03-27T22:24:02.405-04:00@Tristan: I agree with "Talisman isn’t a grea...@Tristan: I agree with "Talisman isn’t a great game to take seriously but it’s got a pretty strong narrative appeal," pretty much exactly, which is why it's one of my usual recommendations for 'dnd-lite' style board games. It's so close to Monopoly that it feels like a comfortable middle ground between harder gaming and traditional stuff.<br /><br />Ascension is my wife and mine's number one all time played game together (other than backgammon and gin rummy). Really great!<br /><br />I would say it's a steeper learning curve for a non-board gamer, but not too hard for anyone who is actually interested in learning.<br /><br />I have not played Gloomhaven, but it looks too 'heavy' for me (I like real RPGs and I like wargames, but the combo tends to turn me off for some reason).AdventureMaterialshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16285640430049907816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-62262076118230046652021-03-27T22:21:42.116-04:002021-03-27T22:21:42.116-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.AdventureMaterialshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16285640430049907816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-52244986287963276852021-03-27T21:38:53.015-04:002021-03-27T21:38:53.015-04:00Also, as a legacy game, Gloomhaven requires you to...Also, as a legacy game, Gloomhaven requires you to find 2+ people ready to commit to a 100+ hour campaign, because you're going to experience sadness if someone quits halfway through, even if you've purchased an optional "replay" pack.GregThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01532920274312703426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-75264710196744856122021-03-27T21:37:50.578-04:002021-03-27T21:37:50.578-04:00Gloomhaven, it should be noted, is a pretty tight ...Gloomhaven, it should be noted, is a pretty tight resource-management game which requires you to (practically) complete most missions in a fairly limited number of turns, which can be confusing to people expecting a more exploratory RPG-esque game.<br /><br />Also its between-missions RPG-decision elements are basically coin flips, and its lore is as dull as it is interminable. <br /><br />That said, it is a *great game*, and should be played - just that the bits that might entice an RPG fan are going to end up disappointing. <br /><br />(The first expansion, Forgotten Circles, is unplaytested rubbish and can be ignored.)GregThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01532920274312703426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-36321638196974179742021-03-27T10:53:13.384-04:002021-03-27T10:53:13.384-04:00Or the Ultima II splash screen!
Guess 8-Bit Drago...Or the Ultima II splash screen!<br /><br />Guess 8-Bit Dragons only come in so many flavours!arthurdawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04269435724709435094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-79851595259364224892021-03-27T10:51:03.667-04:002021-03-27T10:51:03.667-04:00I still can't use the term Wizard when it come...I still can't use the term Wizard when it comes to D&D and its versions... they will always be magic-users!<br /><br />Great memories of AD&D 1st ed!arthurdawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04269435724709435094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-18290349759431827562021-03-27T10:50:10.630-04:002021-03-27T10:50:10.630-04:00The (almost) undisputed paragon of this genre - Gl...The (almost) undisputed paragon of this genre - Gloomhaven - also has an intro spin-off called Jaws of the Lion which might fit the bill. It's a cooperative game though.Andreas Kaplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04627726032225417912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-2893812859463661672021-03-27T10:48:19.901-04:002021-03-27T10:48:19.901-04:00You were supposed to select your spell before ente...You were supposed to select your spell before entering... but I know we played with house rules allowing you to see the monster occasionally. It's much tougher to be a Wizard and do it this way though - otherwise Wizards mop up!<br />arthurdawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04269435724709435094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-48035636537630999062021-03-27T07:59:12.670-04:002021-03-27T07:59:12.670-04:00(ascension also has a free mobile app, the complet...(ascension also has a free mobile app, the complete game, no tricks, no ads, free. You have to buy the expansions, but the base game is good for quite a long while before you itch for new cards)Tristan Gallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16769219573533545742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-38402107468794653222021-03-27T07:56:21.798-04:002021-03-27T07:56:21.798-04:00Talisman isn’t a great game to take seriously but ...Talisman isn’t a great game to take seriously but it’s got a pretty strong narrative appeal.<br /><br />Ascension is a good card game for two. Easy to learn, but with enough interesting decisions that it takes a long time to get stale, and enough variance such that both players have a good chance of winning. My partner and I have been playing it lately.Tristan Gallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16769219573533545742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-35627462286490004362021-03-27T06:21:27.436-04:002021-03-27T06:21:27.436-04:00Magic swords have you a plus 1 or 2 as wellMagic swords have you a plus 1 or 2 as wellChris Theofiloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09899878431650981199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-68523650482665095432021-03-27T00:18:29.879-04:002021-03-27T00:18:29.879-04:00Sorry, can't edit, but I notice there is now a...Sorry, can't edit, but I notice there is now a Talisman spinoff game called Talisman: Legendary Tales. I can't vouch for that one.AdventureMaterialshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16285640430049907816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-21920239267386120172021-03-27T00:16:13.371-04:002021-03-27T00:16:13.371-04:00Good luck if you get it! If you go with Talisman, ...Good luck if you get it! If you go with Talisman, there's an optional rule in the book to start with your guys at level 2 instead of level 1. I strongly recommend it. It skips the first rounds where you die a lot (think low level RPG guys) without reducing the competitiveness or fun (IMO). Not that those parts aren't fun in CRPGs/tabletop DND, but I think it can drive off newer players.AdventureMaterialshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16285640430049907816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-43062894634213753592021-03-26T21:04:58.333-04:002021-03-26T21:04:58.333-04:00Cool, incorporate some statistics that influence y...Cool, incorporate some statistics that influence your rolls, and your blog could be an rpg itself! joehbrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837988222714030857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-4795129155502250022021-03-26T20:15:02.591-04:002021-03-26T20:15:02.591-04:00The dragon graphic in the first image remindede of...The dragon graphic in the first image remindede of this one:<br />http://crpgaddict.blogspot.com/2013/08/game-111-dragon-fire-1981.html?m=1Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00601952884760176854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-24051636802043016482021-03-26T19:20:09.223-04:002021-03-26T19:20:09.223-04:00Well... more AD&Dish options. In the original...Well... more <em>A</em>D&Dish options. In the original D&D boxed set—which is the only version of D&D that existed in 1975—the paladin and thief that would feature in later versions of <em>Dungeon!</em> didn't exist yet—but "Heroes" and "Superheroes" did!<br /><br />Specifically, in the original D&D, there were only three classes: Fighting-Men, Magic-Users, and Clerics. (AD&D first edition sensibly renamed "Fighting-Men" to "Fighters", but "Magic-Users" would stick around until second edition.) However, there were also different names for the classes at different levels. A Wizard in OD&D was a Magic-User of the highest level (eleventh, though they weren't numbered); a Hero was a Fighting-Man of the fourth level; and a Superhero was a Fighting-Man of the eighth level. (Which was <em>not</em> the highest level—Fighting-Men could reach the ninth level, whereupon they became "Lords".)<br /><br />So it's not that heroes and superheroes are any less D&Dish than paladins and thieves—they're just from an older edition of D&D!Jalen Wandererhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00973042209003357278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-37896527362797053212021-03-26T16:22:06.926-04:002021-03-26T16:22:06.926-04:00Less Luck Dragons, unfortunately.Less Luck Dragons, unfortunately.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17469733830517678716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-32850832564530502202021-03-26T15:56:29.533-04:002021-03-26T15:56:29.533-04:00I have three versions of this board game: the orig...I have three versions of this board game: the original 1975 version which I inherited from a much older brother, the 1992 version which I got for Christmas as a kid, and newer 2010ish version. The later versions add new characters, such as a Paladin that can heal (in later versions, if you get wounded twice, you die) and Thieves (which can backstab other players). redhighlandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-79258225673716107812021-03-26T15:36:40.901-04:002021-03-26T15:36:40.901-04:00This is my third pass through 1982, but yeah.This is my third pass through 1982, but yeah.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-25711160038320404202021-03-26T15:36:20.331-04:002021-03-26T15:36:20.331-04:00I mostly roll random numbers to choose the games I...I mostly roll random numbers to choose the games I play, so any contrast is almost certainly accidental. We've been seeing more lately because I already made two passes through the 1980s and most of what I'm picking up now are quasi-RPGs so obscure they took until last year to even be cataloged.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-9613644974029282122021-03-26T15:34:25.903-04:002021-03-26T15:34:25.903-04:00Thanks! Runebound may be a bit pricey for experime...Thanks! <i>Runebound</i> may be a bit pricey for experimentation, but <i>Talisman</i> seems reasonable. These both do SOUND like the sort of game I was looking for.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-91418004398818566162021-03-26T14:25:15.661-04:002021-03-26T14:25:15.661-04:00If you're looking for a D&D-esque boardgam...If you're looking for a D&D-esque boardgame to play with your wife, I recommend either Talisman (more luck-based, but with good flavor and easy rules) or Runebound (closer in feel to a real RPG, more complicated, but probably faster overall). My wife does not play D&D with me, but I can usually get her to play one of those.<br /><br />Both can be fun if you're willing to lean into the story and give it a little imagination.AdventureMaterialshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16285640430049907816noreply@blogger.com