tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post5062267527606088424..comments2024-03-29T10:21:29.354-04:00Comments on The CRPG Addict: Game 309: Sandor (1989)CRPG Addicthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-52198845781273132962022-12-19T21:18:17.841-05:002022-12-19T21:18:17.841-05:00Weird seeing you mention Sleeping Gods Lie, even i...Weird seeing you mention Sleeping Gods Lie, even if to reject it. Its a weird game, both in content and what it is. By all rights, it is a RPG. Its like an '80s attempt at a FPS/FPRPG hybrid, before either of those genres were really things. As such, its rough, and strange. I'm also not really sure if it has any advancement besides health, even after playing through most of the game. Can't say you were wrong to reject it or that the people who say its a RPG are wrong either.MorpheusKitamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16591271981112642781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-62849857766752647972022-12-19T21:06:59.429-05:002022-12-19T21:06:59.429-05:00Interesting, you probably already did this, but ar...Interesting, you probably already did this, but are there any indications in the disk of text that might be connected to a different ending? The way the ending is set up reminds me of a game where that sort of thing is the death screen. I note that there's no description of the game over screen anywhere here, although it could just be "you died" and that's why it was unmentioned.<br />Vf vg cbffvoyr gung gur lrne vf gur bar lbh nffhzr vf gur cerfrag? Nffhzvat lbh unira'g nyernql purpxrq gung. Vg frrzf gb zr gung rvgure gur lrne vf uvqqra fbzrjurer va-tnzr be vapyhqrq va gur znahny. Gura ntnva, qvq nal bgure bs gurve tnzrf unir n znahny jvgu vzcbegnag vasbezngvba va vg?<br /><br />Something a bit amusing, apparently Motelsoft's website includes a link to this blogpost...and the statement about making inquiries to them. D:MorpheusKitamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16591271981112642781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-3877085216173743882022-12-19T17:55:40.978-05:002022-12-19T17:55:40.978-05:00Wow, you really wanted to see this one through. If...Wow, you really wanted to see this one through. If you have any screenshots, send them along and I'll post a supplement.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-23040305642000091892022-12-15T15:35:35.570-05:002022-12-15T15:35:35.570-05:00For those would like to know what the objective an...For those would like to know what the objective and ending is about, I will ROT13 this below. It is possible there is some other alternative non-Freeware ending, but without a working code or non-freeware version, we are left to wonder.<br /><br />ROT13:<br />Lbhe dhrfg vf gb bognva 3 zvffvat zbqhyrf sbe n Gvzr Znpuvar gb erghea gb "lbhe gvzr". Vs vg vf fcrpvsvrq jung "lbhe gvzr" vf, V zvffrq vg. V nyfb ybbxrq va gur qvfx qngn naq qvqa'g frr nalguvat. Fb V pna'g ehyr bhg gung gurer vf vf fcrpvsvp lrne lbh arrq gb hfr.<br /><br />Bapr lbh unir gur guerr zbqhyrf, lbh pna gura hfr gur gvzr znpuvar. V gevrq lrnef va gur cnfg naq shgher naq qvqa'g abgvpr nal qvssrerapr va gur raq erfhyg.<br /><br />Jura npgvingvat gur gvzr znpuvar lbh ner gryrcbegrq gb n arj nern. Gur bireurnq znc qbrfa'g punatr ohg gur pbybef hfrq sbe gur bireurnq znc qb punatr. Gurer vf ab "tnzr bire", "pbatenghyngvbaf", be raq perqvgf. Va guvf fznyy arj nern gurer vf bayl bar cynpr jvgu nal vagrenpgvba. Gung bar cynpr vf n uhg. Jura ragrevat gur uhg lbh ner cerfragrq jvgu gur fnzr "natry" cvpgher nf Purg rkcrevraprq nobir. (Urvyvt Oyhg) Ubjrire gur grkg unf punatrq gb guvf: "VUE FRVQ VZ UVZZRY HAQ RF TVOG XRVA MHEüPX" genafyngrq: "LBH NER VA URNIRA NAQ GURER VF AB ERGHEA". Nf vg vaqvpngrf, gurer vf ab jnl gb yrnir guvf nern. Jul guvf vf "lbhe gvzr" vf n ovg bqq nf V qvqa'g guvax "urnira" jnf gur qrfgvangvba. Lbh ner serr gb pbagvahr gb ebnz guvf nern.<br /><br />Nf sne nf gur Grzcyrf/Puhepurf ner pbaprearq va gur tnzr, lbh pna "Npprcg Snvgu" va nal bs gurz, Ohg guvf jvyy pbfg lbh 6 vagryyvtrapr cbvagf sbe rnpu eryvtvba. Fvapr gubfr vagryyvtrapr cbvagf ner nyfb hfrq gb chepunfr gur bgure fxvyyf va gur tnzr, V arire rkcyberq gur eryvtvbaf naq gurve hfrf. Gurfr ner gur eryvtvbaf V rapbhagrerq: Fhaybg, Onnybg, Prabovg, Wrepb Vg vf cbffvoyr gung bar be zber bs gurfr jvyy chg lbh "va yrnthr jvgu gur qrivy" naq gurersber cebivqr n ernfba sbe gur Urnyvat Oybbq ybpngvbaf gb chevsl.LanHawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073207178889909708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-34158509843855421862022-12-15T13:56:11.202-05:002022-12-15T13:56:11.202-05:00For anyone who would like to play this game.....
I...For anyone who would like to play this game.....<br />I just completed this freeware version of Sandor. (I think.) To avoid the copy protection question issue Chet describes above, you need to adhere to one rule: <b>Do not SAVE the game after being presented the "gebe den Code Nr." screen.</b><br />Yes, you will have to reload occasionally when this happens but that is typically trivial if you follow one other bit of advice. Always save the game immediately after exiting any cave/town/temple/castle/etc.. This is due to the fact that the copy protection question is only presented when on the overworld map. As soon as you take one step on the overworld map, that screen could be presented to you after you have been playing for a while. Once you reboot, this "step/action counter" is reset and you will be free to play for quite a while again.<br /><br />It took me in the neighborhood of about 30 hours to play. A good chuck of that was spent translating German as I do not speak nor read the language. I also was taking fairly detailed notes about what is sold in each market and for how much. Not to mention I was trying to figure out the skill system. You eliminate those things and the time could be under 20 hours easily.<br /><br />The game is not going to win any awards, but I did enjoy myself playing it. It feels a bit disjointed, possibly owing to it being the freeware version and lacking any sort of documentation. And you have no clue what your objective is until you are about half done.<br /><br />I only noticed a few bugs:<br />1) "over healing" wraps hit points back around starting at 0. ex: 2 hit points from the max, you heal 5 hit points, you will find yourself with under 10 hit points. Not good when you have 130 total.<br />2) one or two inscriptions/chests that should have displayed/contained something did not. Freeware version issue?<br />3) the overhead map does not show <i>everything</i> correctly, but it is pretty close. (islands missing, island path parts missing)<br />4) (Feature??) combat can be skipped by clicking in the blank/empty menu bar at the bottom of the combat action listLanHawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073207178889909708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-63974072142306550492021-02-01T03:55:58.306-05:002021-02-01T03:55:58.306-05:00Motelsoft added a code table for the Sandor 2 down...Motelsoft added a code table for the Sandor 2 download in 2019 http://www.motelsoft.de/motelsoftf.html.<br />Perhaps it also works with Sandor. Otherwise would be great to read about Sandor II in the future :-D.JSHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07622384771432220435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-82683600369734097532018-11-16T03:02:01.591-05:002018-11-16T03:02:01.591-05:00Thanks, sorry for not reading the posting rules be...Thanks, sorry for not reading the posting rules before. But I am still curious if the psychonaut class will play a bigger role in this game speaking as a psychonaut anyway. I am a fan of the blog even though I found out about it recently and there is a lot of reading to do! Thank you @crpgaddict for this. It is nice to see all these games I had missed out on and I am enjoy discovering all these games and trying them out myself. And thank you JarlFrank for replying.Blackcrownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-1622000777075941582018-11-15T17:51:06.085-05:002018-11-15T17:51:06.085-05:00The art is all made by one of the two designers/pr...The art is all made by one of the two designers/programmers, and he seems to be quite fond of creating art in that style. JarlFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08139422412722665286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-10552582160439162382018-11-15T14:06:57.694-05:002018-11-15T14:06:57.694-05:00"I'll be happy if I end the game knowing ..."I'll be happy if I end the game knowing what this is about." in regards to that caption about the screen shot, it looks like it was lifted from an Alex Grey painting, who is known for his DMT inspired paintings. Which with a class called Psychonaut in the game only makes me wonder more about what the story and connection is supposed to be.<br /><br />https://goo.gl/images/fiDgmF as an exampleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-38228312185662650682018-11-15T12:34:18.596-05:002018-11-15T12:34:18.596-05:00Some kids are smarter, some kids are stronger, but...Some kids are smarter, some kids are stronger, but German kids are kinder, and that is just the way it is.ERobertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10100273633659655294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-41409281539813800592018-11-15T11:18:32.923-05:002018-11-15T11:18:32.923-05:00I don't quite remember how heavy the orginal U...I don't quite remember how heavy the orginal Uncharted Waters was on this, but I have a hard time seeing the sequel not qualifying as a RPG. At Moby it should at least have the new "RPG elements" genre. That probably should be applied to a ton of more games.Trypticonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-63558764770787702812018-11-15T09:04:57.922-05:002018-11-15T09:04:57.922-05:00I'm glad you have the hang of ST emulators. I ...I'm glad you have the hang of ST emulators. I remember my awkward attempts at being helpful back when you were struggling with them early on (still on Steem? I haven't tried to emulate anything ST-related myself for a while). <br /><br />At any rate, I'm glad this German game remains just on the right side of undersandorble - our Teutonic friends produce the European RPGs that seem to agree with you most, given France's weirdness and the UK's insistence on making everything an action game.Mentohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12666135395522594894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-41230427336791639222018-11-15T00:46:11.309-05:002018-11-15T00:46:11.309-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Joet88https://www.blogger.com/profile/06298640825880372478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-6477606187229906822018-11-15T00:45:55.576-05:002018-11-15T00:45:55.576-05:00You may be almost at your max level but you still ...You may be almost at your max level but you still have to kill all the other blogspawn before you beat the game.Joet88https://www.blogger.com/profile/06298640825880372478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-76891961761318962052018-11-15T00:42:57.856-05:002018-11-15T00:42:57.856-05:00I think maybe it was from the Sandor II manual tha...I think maybe it was from the <i>Sandor II</i> manual that I got the idea that the land was called "Sandor."CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-42074568853056647022018-11-14T23:23:21.582-05:002018-11-14T23:23:21.582-05:00Fortunately this is the same as MAME, it's jus...Fortunately this is the same as MAME, it's just the earlier version when they split MAME and MESS into two separate programs. So it shouldn't be TOO bad to adjust to. I imagine you won't be spending much time on either game anyway.Adamantyrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14962009901412877763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-56726947910244974992018-11-14T18:28:58.176-05:002018-11-14T18:28:58.176-05:00It's a bit of a pain to browse but the most co...It's a bit of a pain to browse but the most comprehensive archive of CPC stuff is probably http://cpc-power.com/ That's where the manual (and possibly the disk images, I can't remember at the moment) come from.<br /><br />Here's the page for Le Maître Absolu: http://cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=1336 Among other useful things they have review scans (only French mags but I don't think this one was released outside France).empty fortresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11252317090614937700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-45907961853072107452018-11-14T16:45:58.729-05:002018-11-14T16:45:58.729-05:00Thank you everyone for your help on the German lan...Thank you everyone for your help on the German language. I'm grateful to have so many readers in that part of the world, and the comments have been extremely educational.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-5507072422288092112018-11-14T16:44:14.864-05:002018-11-14T16:44:14.864-05:00Awesome. Thanks, Adam. I was hoping not to have to...Awesome. Thanks, Adam. I was hoping not to have to learn a new emulator, but I always seem to have problems with MESS.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-37859257586576132602018-11-14T16:43:41.560-05:002018-11-14T16:43:41.560-05:00Received. The manual is particularly appreciated, ...Received. The manual is particularly appreciated, since it doesn't seem to be online anywhere.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-79506611325539822182018-11-14T16:42:13.499-05:002018-11-14T16:42:13.499-05:00When I stated this blog, I was still leveling, and...When I stated this blog, I was still leveling, and thus opportunities to earn experience points were still valuable to me. I'm not sure I've reached max level since then, but the experience point requirements BETWEEN levels have grown so much that I'm pretty much resigned to using the attributes and skills I've already developed.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-8651614881978302522018-11-14T16:39:20.959-05:002018-11-14T16:39:20.959-05:00Well, NOBODY makes a case for Sea Rogue as an RPG ...Well, NOBODY makes a case for <i>Sea Rogue</i> as an RPG except my one commenter, whereas UW is listed as an RPG on several sites (although not MobyGames). There's a big difference between a simulator an an adventure game with some logistics like <i>Pirates</i>! <br /><br />I mean, <i>Sea Rogue</i> has you simultaneously scanning seabeds with a magnetometer, checking speed and sonar on the bridge, positioning people at stations, managing finances and making payroll, controlling divers as they dig through silt, cleaning barnacles off encrusted valuables, and doing historical research to identify the name of the wreck. It's all those niggling aspects of a simulator that I never really like. I suspect it's to <i>Uncharted Waters</i> what <i>Flight Simulator</i> is to <i>Wing Commander</i>.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-48209682487398441002018-11-14T15:37:06.555-05:002018-11-14T15:37:06.555-05:00The way Chet described his reasoning for passing S...The way Chet described his reasoning for passing Sea Rogue has me worried about the fate of Uncharted Waters and its sequel.Zenic Reveriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441583549326102945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-38286961437558920402018-11-14T10:33:52.138-05:002018-11-14T10:33:52.138-05:00I remember back when the world was young and you s...I remember back when the world was young and you started this blog, one of your big things was how you were "wasting time" playing crpgs that you could be using to better yourself. Now look at you go! You are playing a crpg, entertaining the internet, and learning german all at the same time!ERobertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10100273633659655294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-60186927961593472112018-11-14T02:38:59.386-05:002018-11-14T02:38:59.386-05:00Sad to see you pass on Sea Rogue, though your reas...Sad to see you pass on Sea Rogue, though your reasoning is certainly sound. As someone who spent most of their 20s working as a diver for a commercial archeology company I was looking forward to seeing just how many ridiculous things they'd get wrong. If anyone else knows a good source for covering the game, and if you don't object, it would be great to see it shared.Wonkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05147422102351323674noreply@blogger.com