tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post4292345206613284330..comments2024-03-28T13:31:55.554-04:00Comments on The CRPG Addict: Game 468: Tygus Horx (1990)CRPG Addicthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-15752151042181913332022-08-26T07:17:46.467-04:002022-08-26T07:17:46.467-04:00I'm a little sad, that Chester removed the gam...I'm a little sad, that Chester removed the game from his currently playing list. The disk rip from homecomputerworld seems to be perfectly playable. Okay, better luck next time.Sir_Brennushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05826358662287829479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-14151249400386443202022-08-24T06:02:13.759-04:002022-08-24T06:02:13.759-04:00Carn HawthorneCarn HawthorneTristan Gallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16769219573533545742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-3497066173288816162022-08-23T18:58:43.934-04:002022-08-23T18:58:43.934-04:00"Tygus Horx" are two teams in the Austra..."Tygus Horx" are two teams in the Australian Football League who go head to head once or twice each season (Tigers Hawks)...Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09555164129781347046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-117665218567481172022-08-22T04:58:34.848-04:002022-08-22T04:58:34.848-04:00The game actually had quite a few fans among the G...The game actually had quite a few fans among the German C64 CRPG crowd, if you can believe it. Though the German CRPG scene always had a soft spot for The Bard's Tale and its clones for some reason.El despertandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12760941024574852525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-53789969049552352192022-08-21T17:23:47.439-04:002022-08-21T17:23:47.439-04:00PS correction: it was even already three and a hal...PS correction: it was even already three and a half years ago.<br /><br />Anyway, in case you still consider getting in touch with the developer to try to solve the issue (or for anything else), I guess that's him:<br />https://de.linkedin.com/in/rainer-sulzbach-a59859151<br />https://dev.to/rawdog71<br />https://github.com/rawdog71Buscanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-43485845475991948882022-08-21T17:19:56.015-04:002022-08-21T17:19:56.015-04:00Your willingness to tackle yet another inferior cl...Your willingness to tackle yet another inferior clone of a game / series you already found tiresome is once more admirable. Though I think you'd have good grounds to leave it at that. To quote what you wrote two and a half years ago in your summary on 'The Seventh Link' after - quite understandably - giving up on that game:<br /><br />"I couldn't--I can't--play a game that's just a few dozen 20 x 20 dungeon levels full of combats. The Bard's Tale and its derivatives drained that battery.<br />This is the 90s, and gamers are demanding more interesting content in their game worlds. We want NPCs, special encounters, puzzles, and other features in those dungeons, at regular intervals."Buscanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-23394843692069391742022-08-21T15:29:02.370-04:002022-08-21T15:29:02.370-04:00A high amount of levels in a game this basic and b...A high amount of levels in a game this basic and bareboned sounds tedious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-32944425732396689472022-08-21T10:49:06.577-04:002022-08-21T10:49:06.577-04:00Emulator issues are most often cases of the progra...Emulator issues are most often cases of the programmer exploiting unspecified or incorrect behavior of the original hardware - places where the specification says "don't do this". But a clever programmer figured out that something useful happened if you did it anyway. As such, a pure basic program, beong a few more steps removed from the hardware (and those steps being done by the well-documented built in basic interpreter) would be much less likely to be able to exploit such edge cases. Not impossible, but unlikely. But a transcription error mangling a few tokens in your copy is pretty likelyRosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09703211229982182936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-2262217585739466652022-08-21T07:56:24.484-04:002022-08-21T07:56:24.484-04:00Largely because, just comment thread up, someone s...Largely because, just comment thread up, someone suggested that this game should be excused from having SUCH a tiny graphics window because it could have been written in the poorly-performing BASIC language.<br /><br />Anyway, we do seem to be in agreement that this repeating dungeon is HIGHLY unlikely to be an emulator issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-25966458426565249242022-08-20T23:29:08.071-04:002022-08-20T23:29:08.071-04:00"Cat Puke" is the name of my Tygus Horx ..."Cat Puke" is the name of my Tygus Horx tribute band.judd9https://www.blogger.com/profile/05775399294060687430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-10315309526299789072022-08-20T13:11:30.508-04:002022-08-20T13:11:30.508-04:00I don't know where you take the idea from that...I don't know where you take the idea from that this game was written in Basic, Anonymous. It was released on disk (with the magazine, but still), it wasn't a type-in - and even if it was, by 1990 most type-ins for 64er magazine were written in C64 machine code.<br /><br />And every once in a while, even Vice stumbles across an incompatibility, e.g. when a game does something unexpected with the 64s memory, or some specific emulator configuration is needed.<br /><br />That being said, however, I also think it's more likely that Chet used a bad game dump. Better get a different copy from somewhere else and try again - you've definitely played worse games on this blog. 😉 I wouldn't rule out the emulator entirely, though.El despertandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12760941024574852525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-83107661706867598782022-08-20T13:00:21.084-04:002022-08-20T13:00:21.084-04:00Just spamming until you reach the final floor won&...Just spamming until you reach the final floor won't cut it. Gurer ner sbhe chmmyrf lbh arrq gb fbyir orsber lbh pna snpr gur svany rapbhagre. Also, I don't recall the exact number, but the game has a surprisingly high amount of dungeon levels for a Single-Disk C64 release.El despertandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12760941024574852525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-12210057211582404382022-08-20T08:01:27.241-04:002022-08-20T08:01:27.241-04:00It's not written in BASIC. Can't list the ...It's not written in BASIC. Can't list the files on the disc and there's scrolling text that looks too fast for BASIC. According to the wiki, it was developed with the Action Replay Cartridge Monitor. Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12184390528952633384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-28902710810431398852022-08-20T07:18:46.389-04:002022-08-20T07:18:46.389-04:00Maybe it's possible to get a cheat win if yo j...Maybe it's possible to get a cheat win if yo just spam y on the stairs down until a final boss or win screen appears, do anybody know the win condition for this one?Ksmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-77284047786283906592022-08-20T05:29:11.911-04:002022-08-20T05:29:11.911-04:00Come now, a program written in BASIC doing somethi...Come now, a program written in BASIC doing something as elementary as a file operation? That's obviously not an obscure corner case that an emulator can't handle after decades.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-16187291722030743462022-08-20T04:58:20.377-04:002022-08-20T04:58:20.377-04:00They're just these guys, you know?They're just these guys, you know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-13346483856928719202022-08-19T18:12:16.951-04:002022-08-19T18:12:16.951-04:00Never underestimate the possibility of some obscur...Never underestimate the possibility of some obscure game doing something the emulator devs didn't plan for. After all, such emulators are still technically being developed and people rarely report about such titles.<br />Although in this case since it has a filled out page on one of the wikis, its probably just a bad rip, or somehow Chet played it in a way that caused it to glitch out. Which is another thing that happens with the more obscure titles.MorpheusKitamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16591271981112642781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-84705648830333852542022-08-19T17:40:34.197-04:002022-08-19T17:40:34.197-04:00"Here, you create characters for your party, ..."Here, you create characters for your party, only there's no "delete" command, so I guess once the disk gets full, you just throw it away." - The bone dry delivery of this really made me chuckle.C64 Mathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05389208746387863210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-84106452253259191242022-08-19T15:52:03.842-04:002022-08-19T15:52:03.842-04:00So cute you called it "Bard's Quest!"...So cute you called it "Bard's Quest!"<br /><br />A popular strategy that isn't quite so cheezy is to create fodder adventurers that die, but you train up your characters in the back. Eventually, you end up with some higher level characters that can win combats together. This actually seems appropriate for the genre, though a bit gruesome. Survival of the fittest!<br /><br />It's still a meta-strategy that's not in line with expectations. I don't know if that was intentional or just poor balance.Iffy Bonzooliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07519858732154180575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-46254248468057809692022-08-19T14:37:42.450-04:002022-08-19T14:37:42.450-04:00"Or a Michael Moorcock character"
Whic..."Or a Michael Moorcock character" <br /><br />Which makes it a perfect band name!Teeganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11883945434429016309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-19416218348026075852022-08-19T13:38:45.045-04:002022-08-19T13:38:45.045-04:00I wasn't personally a fan of the original Bard...I wasn't personally a fan of the original Bard's Quest, although I did appreciate the idea, and some of the atmosphere. The game itself felt poorly tuned.<br />You explored by opening doors in town, behind which (with level 1 characters) you might find 5-8 berserkers that would wipe the floor with you. It was impossible - or rarely successful - to try to escape. There were no healing spells available until level 3, and the temple charged so much for healing that injured characters had to stay that way, and would die in the next combat.<br />The only way I was able to play the game at all was by creating multiple "mule" characters, transferring their gold, and deleting them. That took me completely out of the game fiction.Corey Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16772474266362396768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-66176758873180164562022-08-19T08:54:02.095-04:002022-08-19T08:54:02.095-04:00Thanks to everyone making suggestions. I'm on ...Thanks to everyone making suggestions. I'm on the road for the week and won't be able to give them a try (or respond to comments) for a while, but I'll look it all over when I get back.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-37181186467722017752022-08-19T08:22:10.971-04:002022-08-19T08:22:10.971-04:00Or a special screwdriver bit...Or a special screwdriver bit...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-27708777788637988932022-08-19T07:14:09.557-04:002022-08-19T07:14:09.557-04:00Or a Michael Moorcock character Or a Michael Moorcock character Mayhaymnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-90817275599834610562022-08-19T06:14:51.855-04:002022-08-19T06:14:51.855-04:00They're not forgotten man, they headlined Tall...They're not forgotten man, they headlined Tallahassee Scream Fest just last year!Tristan Gallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16769219573533545742noreply@blogger.com