tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post4138710030093803291..comments2024-03-29T02:34:55.592-04:00Comments on The CRPG Addict: Dark Sun: The Dark WebCRPG Addicthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-9996463763281182072021-12-25T15:57:55.742-05:002021-12-25T15:57:55.742-05:00Yes, it is easier, whereas it should be one of the...Yes, it is easier, whereas it should be one of the hardest battles in the multiverse of D&D if they would have strictly applied the P&P rules. It's still my opinion that an epic battle is not required for an epic ending.JonathanQhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04700495510059367462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-47733591266218612312021-12-24T21:48:34.268-05:002021-12-24T21:48:34.268-05:00"Yo, oppression and abuse of power is cool an..."Yo, oppression and abuse of power is cool and all and as a mighty wizard I would do the same... but I also like food and water being readily available, and green landscapes are so much nicer than barren hellscapes."<br /><br />"Yeah considering the alternatives, I'm totally going to join up with you. Better to live as a slave in a garden than a slave in a desert!" JarlFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08139422412722665286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-56900563832609869052021-12-24T15:43:12.149-05:002021-12-24T15:43:12.149-05:00It's also partially to do with how xo for mult...It's also partially to do with how xo for multiclassing works in 2e, being split between your classes but also having different level milestones for each one. I always played this with a straight gladiator, a psi/thief, a druid preserver fighter and a cleric preserver fighter, and you keep getting levels like crazy. The second game, (wake of the ravager) even moresoBradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06204901637975146609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-48635701873461085922021-12-24T11:18:47.370-05:002021-12-24T11:18:47.370-05:00Maybe for the sequel you can experience the differ...Maybe for the sequel you can experience the difference of a full psionicist class character given how much experience you already have with the rest of d&d gameplay. joehbrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837988222714030857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-2758078665457139892021-12-24T08:33:48.527-05:002021-12-24T08:33:48.527-05:00The game slightly nudges you towards going clockwi...The game slightly nudges you towards going clockwise - the healer in Teaquetzl sends you northwest on a quest to Gedron. The encounters are also probably easier that way. But if you can handle it you're free to go any way you want.<br /><br />The level cap isn't that bad. Most of the characters may have hit it by now, but it's close to the end and most of the optional encounters have been done. Triple-classing just for the sake of extending the level cap a bit is not really worth it.Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07270991090065636515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-78065204730133293112021-12-24T07:18:30.525-05:002021-12-24T07:18:30.525-05:00Chester's description of how he plays RPG spea...Chester's description of how he plays RPG speaks to my style in a way that is eerily familiar. It's me to a tee.VBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10356793256818551490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-84555807729063226162021-12-24T05:44:24.407-05:002021-12-24T05:44:24.407-05:00I think that the problem lies with the experience ...I think that the problem lies with the experience tables being balanced towards a 6-person party, but there is only 4 characters in Dark Sun.<br /><br />In Ravenloft and Menzoberranzan games creators balanced XP gains towards a 4-person party, and the problem with banging your head on the level-cap in mid-game disappeared. On the contrary, being careless with level-draining enemies could've resulted in the party being stuck at woefully low level with no hopes of gaining more XP, as there is no Restoration spell, nor any grinding opportunities in those games.VladimIr V Yhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673420469663885531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-88054420754512485332021-12-24T05:07:36.563-05:002021-12-24T05:07:36.563-05:00This comes across a bit like the Skinner meme — if...This comes across a bit like the Skinner meme — if you don’t think this is the best game ever made, then you’re playing it wrong. A really silly statement. Like how is Chester meant to know the order you’re “meant” to do the encounters in, when the game is open and there’s no sign posts? And so on. If the game wanted you to do it triple classed, then why give alternatives? Especially when triple classing wasn’t usual RPG practice.Deanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17030651394605861730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-51944370633535819312021-12-24T00:31:42.311-05:002021-12-24T00:31:42.311-05:00Triple classing was definitely not normal play of ...Triple classing was definitely not normal play of 2E.James Nealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402554691802940518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-46786704763673076452021-12-24T00:11:37.215-05:002021-12-24T00:11:37.215-05:00It could be that as a teenager who wasn't supe...It could be that as a teenager who wasn't super experienced with RPGs, I just assumed more classes = better.. but the impression I've always had after reading the manual, was that Athas sucked and you wanted to maximize the potential of your characters.<br /><br />It could be that as a teenager who wasn't super experienced with RPGs, I just assumed more classes = better.. but the impression I've always had after reading the manual, was that Athas sucked and you wanted to maximize the potential of your characters.<br /><br />Even if you take a fairly conservative trip during the Arena phase, insulting the announcer once each time and then escaping with Scar.. you're already close to half way to a single class xp cap before you finish the breakout. Wanaxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-92116859548456617742021-12-24T00:01:38.284-05:002021-12-24T00:01:38.284-05:00"The game is pretty clearly designed to be pl..."The game is pretty clearly designed to be played by triple class characters." I think this needs to be justified with actual evidence.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-76156765046588078972021-12-24T00:00:52.358-05:002021-12-24T00:00:52.358-05:00Agreed -- for most of its run time, you can play p...Agreed -- for most of its run time, you can play pretty much any party you want, since Shattered Lands isn't a very hard game... until you hit the brick wall that is the final battle, and realize that you need to approach it in a very specific way to have a chance. tetrapodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04736532124472617151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-18665853073336954002021-12-23T23:57:12.474-05:002021-12-23T23:57:12.474-05:00Well, I think they're meant to have many membe...Well, I think they're meant to have many members who aren't Preservers, but support the Alliance's goals and help Preservers however they can -- but yeah, it's sort of odd that the major opposition to the sorcerer-kings would center on their use of defiling magic as opposed to all the other things they do to make life miserable for ordinary people.tetrapodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04736532124472617151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-74017696229437437102021-12-23T22:38:33.819-05:002021-12-23T22:38:33.819-05:00Also I would expect the Veiled Alliance to be a ti...Also I would expect the Veiled Alliance to be a tiny minority of the total opposition to the Sorcerer-Kings, since Preservers are supposedly super rare.James Nealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402554691802940518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-17468908496743209852021-12-23T22:28:06.422-05:002021-12-23T22:28:06.422-05:00Seriously doubt it was designed to be played with ...Seriously doubt it was designed to be played with triple class characters. That's something people decided after the fact to make the screwy XP economy more palatable.Brenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07650899016493335364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-60509969716536951392021-12-23T21:31:24.746-05:002021-12-23T21:31:24.746-05:00While it's been fascinating watching somebody ...While it's been fascinating watching somebody play Dark Sun in just about the opposite order that it's designed to be played.. you've set yourself up for considerable disappointment with regard to character development and the economy. <br /><br />This is the first game that I played in real time as it came out that you've covered, I fear that your decisions will leave you with less of a positive impression than you may have had (and I did have back in the day).<br /><br />The game is pretty clearly designed to be played by triple class characters, and a party that includes a psionic caster. If you would have played say, a half-giant fighter/psionist, a human triple class gladiator 8/psionist 9/preserver 9, a mul fighter/thief/druid (fire) and a half-elf fighter/druid (earth)/preserver, would still be getting routine development (getting near the cap).. Also, if you had a psionist, you would be trying to decide which rings to spend your fairly tight resources on, instead of having 60k+ in the bank. <br /><br />This isn't a spoiler, but when your preserver levels, you can click through the level spells in the lower left corner and take earlier level spells, so haste should still be available.<br /><br />Nyfb, gur 3 pba evat punatrf gur ahzore bs UCf lbh trg ba yriry hc, naq fubhyq nyjnlf or tvira gb gur arkg punenpgre gb yriry. Lbhe UCf ner ernyyl ybj sbe gur svany onggyrf.Wanaxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-60106330216384108052021-12-23T18:17:06.712-05:002021-12-23T18:17:06.712-05:00"They are so secret a society, I'm not su..."They are so secret a society, I'm not sure they know they exist" - Beckett on the Society of Leopold, should the Addict ever get to 2004.Mirnaiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10817941432768803717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-3779384295289612792021-12-23T14:30:12.330-05:002021-12-23T14:30:12.330-05:00I think the Veiled alliance is the counterpart of ...I think the Veiled alliance is the counterpart of the Harpersin the Forgotten Realms setting. IIRC in the PnP Setting there is a chapter in each of the city states, but the are so "veiled", that each chapter is independent. Even members of the VA of others cities don't know anything of the about the others, neither members nor location etc as part of their protectionJonathanQhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04700495510059367462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-84092959143471047352021-12-23T14:16:26.216-05:002021-12-23T14:16:26.216-05:00"Good guy" does sometimes have to go in ..."Good guy" does sometimes have to go in scare quotes there, since they're primarily opposing defiling and the sorcerer-kings. Which is good because they're trying to support ecological preservation, which happens to include fighting tyrants, but fighting slavery is not actually their primary goal.<br /><br />The Veiled Alliance will also often either choose to, or think as if they're forced to, make dubious ethical moves to make their ethical goals happen.<br />Jeearrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05233320295907517418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-47015836333085480992021-12-23T13:53:20.085-05:002021-12-23T13:53:20.085-05:00Yeah, there’s definitely some s along going on if ...Yeah, there’s definitely some s along going on if you import - though I actually found that it made the first part of the sequel hardest, with things getting easier later on (it helps that the final fight in Ravager is way easier than the one in Shattered Lands).tetrapodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04736532124472617151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-19201943900395013302021-12-23T12:32:04.092-05:002021-12-23T12:32:04.092-05:00"presumably the extra experience isn't co..."presumably the extra experience isn't completely wasted"<br /><br />I understand that generally one is advised to start the second game with fresh characters. They unsurprisingly had balance issues with importing buffed heroes from the first game, so to compensate for it when you import, I recall that all enemies have doubled hit points. I am told that this solution does not scale properly as you approach the end game.Rowan Lipkovitshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08691096685515251681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-46645444829653300142021-12-23T06:37:01.043-05:002021-12-23T06:37:01.043-05:00Happy Christmas ChesterHappy Christmas Chester12 oclocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-83864389347993062792021-12-23T04:07:48.390-05:002021-12-23T04:07:48.390-05:00In the battle with the spider queen, bad spiders b...In the battle with the spider queen, bad spiders blink black when you hover the cursor over them. Friendly spiders blink grey. The prince might have died from stray lighting bolt or some other attack, he is a rather fragile NPC.<br />I remember that I had to replay this battle several times because of him keep dying. The best way to keep him safe is to identify spider spell-casters and hit them hard with your own spells. They can dish out noticeable damage, but can't take much themselves.<br /><br />As of your impatience, you are almost at the end. Once you help this village, you can proceed to Teaquetzl and to final area. Two areas south of the geoglyph area are completely optional, as was the two areas between that area and Gedron. The quest with the underground temple is optional too. But if you want to complete it, one more area of this temple is accessible only from destroyed caravan area you explored just after escaping from the drajan fields.VladimIr V Yhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673420469663885531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-84460560915009603822021-12-23T04:04:33.259-05:002021-12-23T04:04:33.259-05:00I'm really intrigued how complex the quests ar...I'm really intrigued how complex the quests are in this game, even there are some hickups here in there<br /><br />Marc Sthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08732120014575394311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-50511226178911849922021-12-23T02:32:46.366-05:002021-12-23T02:32:46.366-05:00The evil spiders can be cured without killing any,...The evil spiders can be cured without killing any, but I don't think it's necessary. I don't think it's possible to avoid the queen fight. What probably happened though is that you killed the prince. Several spiders fight on your side and it's very hard to tell them apart from the queen's spiders. I think the mages can be safely killed, apart from that you have to check who is attacking you - but I think even that became bugged sometimes.Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07270991090065636515noreply@blogger.com