tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post6723910804704758302..comments2024-03-19T02:45:56.380-04:00Comments on The CRPG Addict: Game 238: Fer & Flamme (1986)CRPG Addicthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-33451919031238140742016-12-29T16:53:38.648-05:002016-12-29T16:53:38.648-05:00Yes, it's the CPC version. I forgot to mention...Yes, it's the CPC version. I forgot to mention that in the post.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-38471948718913116972016-12-28T08:54:12.857-05:002016-12-28T08:54:12.857-05:00By the way, this is the CPC version, right? The gr...By the way, this is the CPC version, right? The graphics look CPC-like (using its high resolution, 4-color mode), and according to Wikipedia that's the only version this game had. Oddly enough, this game doesn't seem to be on Mobygames at all.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10155410179950267253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-2187659777364485552016-12-27T13:07:40.350-05:002016-12-27T13:07:40.350-05:00I think the 90s and early 2000s were the peak of t...I think the 90s and early 2000s were the peak of this, with games limiting key remapping more and more these days. Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-71629977125197364762016-12-27T11:33:59.894-05:002016-12-27T11:33:59.894-05:00I had misread your post, it proves the spell bug i...I had misread your post, it proves the spell bug is part of the program: the spells that should have been used by BOTH elves and wizards can be used by elves ONLY. The 'sort frappeur' is actually the D&D - AD&D 'Knock' to open closed doors.<br />It's one of the things that stopped me playing it…Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-81984731810695408632016-12-27T05:31:14.852-05:002016-12-27T05:31:14.852-05:00Nice to see you start Fer&Flammes. I never was...Nice to see you start Fer&Flammes. I never was able to finish it but i'm really interested to read the full adventure.<br /><br />I just remember one thing, in order to find hidden quest objects you have to press several time the button "search" (eyeglasses icon)<br /><br /><br />SPOIL :<br /> <br />The first object quest in the town is in the church and you have to search it.<br /><br />Arnaudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10953773873381864242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-34457990307139654362016-12-26T17:14:03.135-05:002016-12-26T17:14:03.135-05:00"The weapons and armor you buy at first are o..."The weapons and armor you buy at first are only modifications to your armor class, you're not actually armed: you have to buy weapons in the city or fight bare-handed". Well, that clears up two of my issues, so thanks! But that's also pretty weird.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-32188464232956537582016-12-26T17:13:20.464-05:002016-12-26T17:13:20.464-05:00Clearly, the two trends coincide temporally, but I...Clearly, the two trends coincide temporally, but I'm not sure I understand why that had to be the case. Why couldn't French developers offer French-only titles on new platforms?CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-7173826879585591622016-12-26T17:11:42.091-05:002016-12-26T17:11:42.091-05:00That's an interesting bit of insight. It doesn...That's an interesting bit of insight. It doesn't excuse the interface, of course--just shifts the blame--but it's still interesting to read.<br /><br />At some point in the mid-1990s, the convention seemed to shift from "exactly one way to do things" to "as many ways as possible to do things to suit each user's preference." I wonder if games influenced this shift in thinking or if they were just beneficiaries.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-23630066155489118642016-12-26T17:09:34.021-05:002016-12-26T17:09:34.021-05:00The language is really the least of the problems. ...The language is really the least of the problems. The weird conventions are more significant.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-74081723839163432572016-12-26T17:08:57.878-05:002016-12-26T17:08:57.878-05:00For the record, I don't consider it rude. I...For the record, I don't consider it rude. I'm happy to receive a "Merry Christmas" in whatever language someone cares to offer it.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-60713039023755310512016-12-26T17:02:47.541-05:002016-12-26T17:02:47.541-05:00My dear fellow german poster from the same part of...My dear fellow german poster from the same part of the country, please don't post in german on foreign websites. It's considered as rude behavior. NFU & Merry Christmas.fireballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01094871771537115267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-91426563349863832162016-12-26T15:11:11.901-05:002016-12-26T15:11:11.901-05:00Agreed! I can read basic French, but actually play...Agreed! I can read basic French, but actually playing a game in that language would cross the line from fun into work, especially with the specialized vocabulary. Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08526120228467162158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-76605823180176303402016-12-25T12:19:41.063-05:002016-12-25T12:19:41.063-05:00Frohe Weihnachten aus Hessen!Frohe Weihnachten aus Hessen!finnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11981067574244446834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-12730512594939502972016-12-25T09:06:55.083-05:002016-12-25T09:06:55.083-05:00Happy Holidays Chet and everyone else. Hope you fi...Happy Holidays Chet and everyone else. Hope you figure out this game, it is always interesting to see games outside the American RPG tradition. Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-89550966328699855062016-12-24T14:54:04.549-05:002016-12-24T14:54:04.549-05:00Yep have a great Christmas/Hanukkah/Kwanzaa rpglov...Yep have a great Christmas/Hanukkah/Kwanzaa rpglovers!<br /><br />If you start a game of ADoM on Christmas Eve you'll get the message "A lone star leads you to this remote valley." and start with the Fate Smiles intrinsic, which is bonzer!Tristan Gallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16769219573533545742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-40978268931095373732016-12-24T10:20:15.109-05:002016-12-24T10:20:15.109-05:00The irony of this thread is just leaden on my soul...The irony of this thread is just leaden on my soul!<br /><br />(If I could work Iron Maiden into this comment it would really be one for the heavy metal humor annals... just let it sink in by osmium-osis...)<br /><br />Happy Holidays to all! Loving the columns Chet!arthurdawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04269435724709435094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-33679127278154745742016-12-24T09:24:30.545-05:002016-12-24T09:24:30.545-05:00By the way, I noticed my posts no longer say they ...By the way, I noticed my posts no longer say they will show up after administrator approves them... I feel special now, happy holidays!CT62https://www.blogger.com/profile/09367626671107670398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-65731691686211660422016-12-24T09:23:25.521-05:002016-12-24T09:23:25.521-05:00Your willingness to attempt games with language an...Your willingness to attempt games with language and interface barriers is noble sir. I can't provide any real help, but I wish you luck in any case!CT62https://www.blogger.com/profile/09367626671107670398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-23516634852849105902016-12-24T08:53:10.179-05:002016-12-24T08:53:10.179-05:00That way of saying exists in French as well: "...That way of saying exists in French as well: "être tout feu tout flamme" holds the exact same meaning, even figuratively.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-36430032024665302802016-12-24T08:13:52.877-05:002016-12-24T08:13:52.877-05:00I'm just glad Chet cleared up the confusion fe...I'm just glad Chet cleared up the confusion ferrous.Alan Twelvehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11250817307212302011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-81540326131233826842016-12-24T05:12:26.104-05:002016-12-24T05:12:26.104-05:00I also thought the title translates to fire and fl...I also thought the title translates to fire and flame. My excuse is, that "Feuer und Flamme" is a common phrase in German. It means that you're excited/enthusiastic about something. Commentmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-24141605035924404142016-12-24T01:43:43.056-05:002016-12-24T01:43:43.056-05:00http://amstrad.eu/modules/publisher/item.php?itemi...http://amstrad.eu/modules/publisher/item.php?itemid=202<br />According to the terrible Google translate of the interview, Ubisoft requested the maker to change the keyboard interface to a joystick interface like in their earlier 1986 game Zombi so maybe Ubisoft was just demanding consistency between the games they published regardless of whether it made any sense at all. <br /><br />"I met Chip then Ubi Soft. The first one told me to come back when my game was finished and the second one was ready to edit it if I changed my keyboard interface for controllable icons to the joystick, as in Zombi. I followed Ubi Soft in 1986."couscoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735253398170515210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-27435813251442747912016-12-23T22:32:20.127-05:002016-12-23T22:32:20.127-05:00"1989 is the last year that they fielded anyt..."1989 is the last year that they fielded anything that requires a diacritical"<br /><br />Just wanted to say I found this particularly funny. Plus the "fire and flame" mistranslation. Don't feel bad. I spent years mixed up and thinking "sturm und drang" was "blood and iron" rather than its actual "storm and stress". (Blood and iron being another well-known quoted phrase, but different words.) Language barriers always make things fun.<br /><br />As for that chicken for 44 instead of 54? I would be very worried that it's not really "chicken." The French are known for being flexible with their meats, and any language that can't tell their apples from their potatoes is a risky one if you ask me.Quirkzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16409671254311123117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-50096959419081614942016-12-23T17:00:57.912-05:002016-12-23T17:00:57.912-05:00Although I am going to be merely conjecturing, I&#...Although I am going to be merely conjecturing, I'd like to comment about the reasons of the 1984-1989 France-only RPGs trend, and its disappearance.<br /><br />To me, this is heavily tied to the main computing platform that was dominating the Frecnh market: the CPC series from Amstrad. As you may probably be aware of, the CPC was absolutely devoid of about any RPG - probably because of its lack of ties with America. I think the Ubisoft attempt thus might have been to fill that gap.<br /><br />Incidently, 1989 is arguably the last great year for the CPC - while it tried put a battle against 16 bits computer, it definitely lost by then to the 16-bits console flooding.<br /><br />My only memory of Fer&Flamme is that it was the first game I encountered bugs with. That experience was like the shroud of reality being teared down in front of this kid's eyes! ...This comment isn't probably going to act as an incentive to play the game further :/Danjuronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-4943331088014012222016-12-23T15:23:31.460-05:002016-12-23T15:23:31.460-05:00I remember a few things…
• The weapons and armor ...I remember a few things…<br /><br />• The weapons and armor you buy at first are only modifications to your armor class, you're not actually armed: you have to buy weapons in the city or fight bare-handed ( a lot of my parties perished before I realized that ).<br /><br />• "Tinigens" was what they called "halflings" in the French translation of the Moldvay D&D box.<br /><br />• Speaking of D&D, Clerics don't have spell at level 1 - one of the differences with AD&D. Nostalgia.<br /><br />• You don't address the problem so I guess it was the disk I bought at the time that was bugged: of the magic (non-cleric) spells, some are for elves&wizards, some for wizards only. But as it turned out only the elves could use those for elves&wizards…<br /><br />• l'Anneau de Zengara is a follow-up on Fer&Flamme with only 1 character, you can import him from Fer&Flamme or create him but iirc if you create him he has to be a warrior. You wander in a tower labyrinth and fight monsters when occasion arises. When I was 15 I thought it was pretty cool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com