tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post6365809575863505893..comments2024-03-28T10:19:08.172-04:00Comments on The CRPG Addict: Ultima IV: DungeonsCRPG Addicthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-85167349041024800182017-04-09T05:40:40.969-04:002017-04-09T05:40:40.969-04:003 years later, this just helped me figure out the ...3 years later, this just helped me figure out the answer to this annoying question. Thank you.Mr Backloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01776861922344186921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-29775330490580778062017-03-20T20:39:20.176-04:002017-03-20T20:39:20.176-04:00The SMS version is exactly the same as the PC vers...The SMS version is exactly the same as the PC version except the dungeons are top down and when in conversation you don't type keywords your just given a list. Probably the best version of the game in my opinion.The Tinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16194022333785202533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-10668768488046063152014-04-13T16:36:42.668-04:002014-04-13T16:36:42.668-04:00Dungeons are mostly the same in the NES version, e...Dungeons are mostly the same in the NES version, except there are no traps, and the floors are much smaller (8 x 8). I don't know how well the SMS keeps to the original layouts.Zenic Reveriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441583549326102945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-37775730488486414942014-04-11T13:49:36.948-04:002014-04-11T13:49:36.948-04:00Ah, wait! Moments after posting, I hit upon it. Th...Ah, wait! Moments after posting, I hit upon it. The bartenders in Britain and Trinsic DO tell you to talk to Sloven and Merlin in Cove (actually, the bartender in Britain, where I tested this, knows about both the black and white stones, so perhaps you can visit any bar). First, you have to order ale. Then you have to over-pay for the ale so you get a dialogue option.<br /><br />Here's the unintuitive part: unlike every other dialogue in the game, you can't cue the response with just four letters of the word, like BLAC or STON. Even BLACK and STONE don't work. You literally have to type BLACK STONE and WHITE STONE to get the response.<br /><br />CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-70501932618677024812014-04-11T13:42:41.962-04:002014-04-11T13:42:41.962-04:00Joe, after searching through my own notes and seve...Joe, after searching through my own notes and several script sites, then firing up the game again, I think you're right about the path to both stones being broken. In both cases, you're told to ask at a pub, but there's no opportunity to talk to the bartenders and none of the patrons know anything.<br /><br />Sloven, a hermit in Cove, tells you to ask the ghost of Isaac about the white stone, but nobody tells you to talk to Sloven. Neither does anyone tell you to talk to Merlin in Cove about the black stone.<br /><br />So I'm not 100% sure how I found them. Either I remembered from my previous plays or I just asked everyone about STONE until I got what I needed (which is probably what I did back in 1985). Either way, you'd think I would have commented on it.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-24331637341486567822014-04-10T11:00:23.229-04:002014-04-10T11:00:23.229-04:00Ah, found it. It was a man in Vesper (ranger sprit...Ah, found it. It was a man in Vesper (ranger sprite), upstairs through a hidden passage to the left of the guild. In the NES version there's no keywords. Each NPC only has a single thing to say.Zenic Reveriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441583549326102945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-51975905787023617942014-04-09T21:06:58.683-04:002014-04-09T21:06:58.683-04:00I found a site that had a script dump. Merlin tell...I found a site that had a script dump. Merlin tells you about it in Cove, if you ask him about "stone". My guess is the missing tavern clue would have told you to talk to him.<br /><br />I *believe* that the tavern clues were changed in the NES version because Nintendo did not want kids to drink, but it has been almost 20 years since I played Ultima 4 for the NES and I could be misremembering.Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-42517964904488182702014-04-09T12:35:04.947-04:002014-04-09T12:35:04.947-04:00I just finished the NES version. I'm not sure ...I just finished the NES version. I'm not sure how closely the clues match, but I kind of stumbled across the ghost in Skara Brae by spending the night at the inn. I didn't find any clue that he existed beforehand. The clue for the black stone, I'll look through my screenshots when I have more time, but I have it written in my notes that an NPC behind a locked door told me about it. This weekend I'm hoping to get through a good portion of the PC and SMS versions for comparison.Zenic Reveriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441583549326102945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-48140926670249190352014-04-09T02:23:56.051-04:002014-04-09T02:23:56.051-04:00I have been playing Ultima 4 and it is fantastic, ...I have been playing Ultima 4 and it is fantastic, but I got stuck and needed a hint: the white and black stones do not seem to be possible to find without cheating.<br /><br />I'm playing the GoG version, but in Skara Brae you are told to ask about the white stone at the tap in Trinsic-- but that does you no good. No one there knows anything about it and the bartender does not seem to have a hint. Somehow you are supposed to figure out that you have to ask the ghost in the Skara Brae inn about the stone to find out that it is in the mountains. I guess you could see the shrine there in the balloon anyway and go, but I suspect there is a broken conversation script here.<br /><br />The black stone is the same, but I cannot figure out the "real" way you are supposed to find out about it. You find out from Nate the Snake in Magincia that you have to ask at the pub in Britain about the black stone, but that is no dice.<br /><br />Do you know how to find the stones without cheating? I am feeling like there is a bug here. Oh well.<br /><br />This is a fantastic game overall and I made it this far without hints, but after exploring every city again, getting all eight Avatar parts, all of the other stones, and the mystic weapons and armor-- I had enough of wandering in circles. <br /><br />All I have left is to get the black stone, get the key in Hythloth, and brave the Avatar's island. Not sure if the endgame is another dungeon, but I am looking forward to finding out. <br /><br />Incidentally, I found this game much harder than you did. Until the late game, I was behind on the monster scaling and got my ass handed to me with alarming frequency-- I could not even get the 300 to resurrect my characters without losing someone else. Ended up just being easier to suicide the whole party to get a Lord British refresh. You would think that good old LB would resurrect dead party members, but he seems to draw the line at that.<br /><br />I should be able to finish this week!Joe Pranevichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997014242774219758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-17833893122535365182013-10-05T18:07:11.327-04:002013-10-05T18:07:11.327-04:00If you're roleplaying a character that has eid...If you're roleplaying a character that has eidetic memory, then it's not cheating to take screenshots. Or if you pretend that you're describing what you see to another party member who writes it down. =) (Hey, kinda like Joseph Smith!)<br /><br />And yeah, I'd have thought it's obvious how love and dexterity are related... =)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16698091173959436473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-10965915361879147462012-03-26T21:34:40.231-04:002012-03-26T21:34:40.231-04:00From what the Ultima Wiki implied, Katrina should ...From what the Ultima Wiki implied, Katrina should have a Wisdom score of 40, as opposed to the maximum of 30 which everybody is limited to; making her the wisest person to ever walk the face of Britannia. Pity there's no such attribute in U4. :pKenny McCormickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553499727945099493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-2015118711885754112011-09-29T02:56:15.599-04:002011-09-29T02:56:15.599-04:00I just found your blog and now I'm reading thr...I just found your blog and now I'm reading through all the Ultima IV entries - good stuff! Ultima IV is the kind of game you keep coming back to.Jensanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16216604356936975761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-51830282271697482832011-09-05T00:31:06.105-04:002011-09-05T00:31:06.105-04:00I'm actually going to have to play that game a...I'm actually going to have to play that game at some point, too.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-49679918155683575262011-09-04T23:16:28.461-04:002011-09-04T23:16:28.461-04:00Well, according to Ultima: Martian Dreams, love im...Well, according to Ultima: Martian Dreams, love improves dexterity because it means that you enjoy friendship and camaraderie and should go play team sports.Jokkeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-3851016050730859202010-09-10T17:58:37.836-04:002010-09-10T17:58:37.836-04:00Hmm. I'm pretty sure there's a crass joke...Hmm. I'm pretty sure there's a crass joke lurking involving dexterity, love and touching balls, but I'm way too classy to think of it. :-)Kyle Haighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608497826478356055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-3588592206659323102010-06-12T23:05:51.608-04:002010-06-12T23:05:51.608-04:00Thanks, Deadly. I strongly recommend that you give...Thanks, Deadly. I strongly recommend that you give the Ultima series, and some of these other old games, a try. I barely think of Ultima VII as an "old game" any more--it has as much role-playing quality as most modern games, and the graphics aren't distressingly bad.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-67901549205861013182010-06-11T13:08:10.138-04:002010-06-11T13:08:10.138-04:00Well, I finally managed to read the whole blog, an...Well, I finally managed to read the whole blog, and boy, am I glad I did so. Such an unique opportunity to go through all those old RPGs without having to actually play them and endure all those hardships on my own. Keep up the brilliant work, Sir Addict.<br /><br />Concerning Ultima, never played single one of them. Tried the "Exult version" of VII, but couldn't really figure out the controls, so I let it sail. I hope you'll get there some day and show me what I've been missing.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00724252172802622449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-61409192204444230512010-06-08T19:56:04.499-04:002010-06-08T19:56:04.499-04:00Incase you arent already aware of these:
http://w...Incase you arent already aware of these:<br /><br />http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20070223a/barton_01.shtml<br /><br />http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20070223b/barton_01.shtml<br /><br />http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/1571/the_history_of_computer_.phplAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com