tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post4932469851375927582..comments2024-03-29T09:18:29.803-04:00Comments on The CRPG Addict: Game 385: Minelvaton Saga: Ragon no Fukkatsu (1987)CRPG Addicthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-15898008556337102432020-12-30T12:56:18.599-05:002020-12-30T12:56:18.599-05:00If anyone is looking for more coverage of this gam...If anyone is looking for more coverage of this game, the Chrontendo video series briefly covered it back in 2009.<br /><br />https://youtu.be/1iw1EUWVwZU?t=2774<br /><br />And yeah, these games were super ubiquitous in the period after DQ came out, always found this style of combat weird though.smiskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02354081253681124801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-3281684521502038402020-11-10T09:46:51.509-05:002020-11-10T09:46:51.509-05:00I also encountered "Dorf" as a flippant ...I also encountered "Dorf" as a flippant way of saying "Dwarf", so I fully expected a village filled with dwarves here.Libluinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15524606710871977666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-85131140734264108422020-11-06T21:55:25.091-05:002020-11-06T21:55:25.091-05:00I asked the author of the translation about it, an...I asked the author of the translation about it, and he does know about Greek mythology, he just thinks the title was just made up for the games. That's as close as we'll get to an actual answer short of asking the team responsible for it.MorpheusKitamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16591271981112642781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-65157195594525518262020-11-02T10:10:49.069-05:002020-11-02T10:10:49.069-05:00Maybe they misspelled "Minelvatown"?Maybe they misspelled "Minelvatown"?kuniqshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06713085862362524573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-18329619339550956912020-10-28T17:42:27.640-04:002020-10-28T17:42:27.640-04:00I think this is the explanation for the four tower...I think this is the explanation for the four tower bosses:<br />https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheFourGods<br />https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EliteFour<br />As you can tell, this far predates Pokemon's famous usage of the concept of four bosses and a master.P-Tux7https://www.blogger.com/profile/03201162995038006540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-36862779263587649102020-10-28T17:39:38.117-04:002020-10-28T17:39:38.117-04:00The Dragonlord turned into a Superdragon even in t...The Dragonlord turned into a Superdragon even in the Japanese NES version. That's just a rumour that they changed anythingP-Tux7https://www.blogger.com/profile/03201162995038006540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-50693672815154740852020-10-28T17:37:07.714-04:002020-10-28T17:37:07.714-04:00I wonder if the translator used L as a pun on &quo...I wonder if the translator used L as a pun on "elven", and if that pun was always meant to be the case.P-Tux7https://www.blogger.com/profile/03201162995038006540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-15177176468236342262020-10-28T05:36:01.974-04:002020-10-28T05:36:01.974-04:00Unnecessary. Only german speaking people will unde...Unnecessary. Only german speaking people will understand that word.CarlKontermannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11997389997776963523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-82293646557306123622020-10-27T17:52:30.472-04:002020-10-27T17:52:30.472-04:00That's funny. I see it. What you're percei...That's funny. I see it. What you're perceiving as the eye is the skull, and what you're perceiving as his beak is the blade of the scythe he's holding.<br /><br />Agora is the God of Destruction, I now see from a screen shot. I was going to caption that image, "I wish there was a word to describe my fear of this god." I don't know why I didn't.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-49753161882794961112020-10-27T15:47:58.649-04:002020-10-27T15:47:58.649-04:00Apparently, FF3 was the best-selling FF game for t...Apparently, FF3 was the best-selling FF game for the Famicom, sold really well (in Japan only, of course) which is in part why they went with decision to make some entries on the newer consoles. Too bad we didn't get the original game in English, but oh well, what can you do.cccmarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06334696427452657529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-83055698122437643332020-10-27T14:36:38.017-04:002020-10-27T14:36:38.017-04:00Two random thoughts on the screenshots:
Is it me,...Two random thoughts on the screenshots:<br /><br />Is it me, or does that "Death Master" icon look like a penguin or puffin or something?<br /><br />Was Agora the god of the sky?Reikohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07326356159794723662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-77474939968503342932020-10-27T13:04:59.586-04:002020-10-27T13:04:59.586-04:00This might be a clone, but its presentation is qui...This might be a clone, but its presentation is quite good! Those are very advanced tile and sprite graphics for an '87 Famicom game - better than Dragon Quest would ever get on the Famicom, although Final Fantasy 3 is better. Combined with the apparently rockin' soundtrack, it's a real shame the game wasn't more mechanically ambitious - I'm sure it would be remembered as a classic if it had been.Jazerusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-61674699996178171042020-10-27T07:15:25.160-04:002020-10-27T07:15:25.160-04:00Dorf is also protected by fierce guardians, the in...Dorf is also protected by fierce guardians, the infamous 'Elitedorfdepps'.minandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14447689252911339858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-2022709724462258102020-10-27T07:11:26.148-04:002020-10-27T07:11:26.148-04:00It's a long trek back to Arkansas..
What? I...It's a long trek back to Arkansas..<br />What? I'm European. I am allowed to write daft comments.minandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14447689252911339858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-16472186029133507742020-10-27T07:10:13.501-04:002020-10-27T07:10:13.501-04:00By the by, I think the cheat was sensible, and eve...By the by, I think the cheat was sensible, and even if the time spent was unanticipated I think it's interesting to get an example of a clone from across the pond. At least its not an Ultima clone!Tristan Gallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16769219573533545742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-45392605009915455672020-10-27T03:06:25.354-04:002020-10-27T03:06:25.354-04:00I believe the Addict playing Megami Tensei is one ...I believe the Addict playing Megami Tensei is one of the signs announcing the Apocalypse.Vincehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05019892418296525854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-72737636916981202892020-10-27T02:52:51.177-04:002020-10-27T02:52:51.177-04:00It can also be a problem when the changes are too ...It can also be a problem when the changes are too extremem. Some of the early anime localizations partially or completely changed the story. Like with Robotech, where two of the three stories had nothing whatsoever to do with Robotech.<br /><br />Or where, like in at least one of the pornographic RPGs the Addict has done here, where they change a mostly serious story into a comedy.<br /><br />Although some of the changes done in localizations are accepted or even embraced (like the above DQ change), some go too far. Especially when you can't recognize parts of a series of games as actually being the same series.Drawdenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-60917285799635647562020-10-27T00:11:31.409-04:002020-10-27T00:11:31.409-04:00Those are interesting facts! Nothing I could find ...Those are interesting facts! Nothing I could find online ties the games together.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-9257770061121030842020-10-26T23:13:54.478-04:002020-10-26T23:13:54.478-04:00Moryou Senki Madara, Willow, Zelda 2 and Metal Max...Moryou Senki Madara, Willow, Zelda 2 and Metal Max are also creative and fun games and I heard great things about Lagrange point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-38703138093264642492020-10-26T22:15:51.156-04:002020-10-26T22:15:51.156-04:00Localization's only really a problem when it c...Localization's only really a problem when it crosses the line into censorship, either content or culture. It's one thing to change references that'd fly over most people's heads or content that wouldn't fly in another country, but it's another thing entirely to claim someone's jumping off a cliff to "perk themselves up" or that a rice ball's actually a jelly doughnut.Twibathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11872080022551062309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-21612541003157587502020-10-26T19:09:27.421-04:002020-10-26T19:09:27.421-04:00I can also add Mother 1 and Destiny of an Emperor,...I can also add Mother 1 and Destiny of an Emperor, for different settings than you normally see if nothing else. Twibathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11872080022551062309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-43977079528115621172020-10-26T16:25:29.277-04:002020-10-26T16:25:29.277-04:00Even without thinking hard, both Sweet Home (a hor...Even without thinking hard, both Sweet Home (a horror game with some pretty unique that was the first of Capcom's RPG titles and also had some influence on the later Resident Evil series) and Fire Emblem (one of the first SRPG titles that has had many sequels and probably a lot of influence on multiple later titles) easily reach both the "relatively original, exotic experience" and "considerable historical significance" tests.Gnomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920812227941556716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-51389568708708590532020-10-26T15:07:28.861-04:002020-10-26T15:07:28.861-04:00At this point in time, there are actually tons of ...At this point in time, there are actually tons of JP-exclusive Dragon Warrior clones, and that trend continued until PSP and NDS more or less, though handhelds generally got fewer of them. It was the most successful RPG on the Famicom, so no wonder. There are minor twists here and there, but most of them really are just like that. There are a few dungeon crawlers, but they're really few and far between. Generally, you will mostly see games of this kinds instead. RPGs on the Japanese computers tend to be more complex than the console ones naturally, but AFAIK none of them are translated, except for that 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinka Ron PC98 game by Enix. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-17076025182152599132020-10-26T14:44:38.194-04:002020-10-26T14:44:38.194-04:00Interesting fact: the setting of Minelvaton first ...Interesting fact: the setting of Minelvaton first appeared in a PC88 adventure game called Ankoku-jou (Dark Castle) released in 1984. Chronologically, it takes place after Minelvaton Saga and the Silva Saga games. The game ends with the protagonist causing the Big Bang, hence why Minelvaton predates our universe according to the game's story.<br /><br />There's also an action RPG called Riglas released in 1985. Story-wise it's has a lose connection with Ankoku-jou, though I don't believe it takes place in Minelvaton. The game ends with the protagonist taking on the name Leon. However, I don't think it's supposed to be same Leon mentioned in this game. In the Minelvaton series, the name Leon is a name assumed by several heroes, just like the name Erick/Roto from the Dragon Quest series. Somewhat confusingly, the canonical name of this game's protagonist is supposed to be Leon as well.Riknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-30914521616264196812020-10-26T13:28:28.300-04:002020-10-26T13:28:28.300-04:00"If I made an RPG and named its towns Shinjuk..."If I made an RPG and named its towns Shinjuku, Arakawa, and Setagaya, you'd think those were fine names, and Japanese people would be laughing that they were just suburbs of Tokyo."<br /><br />Curiously, a bit later you mention the music composer having a band called "Asturias", that's also the name of a region near my place in the North of Spainshankaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06194425920878224732noreply@blogger.com