tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post3128795192957971929..comments2024-03-28T15:25:30.216-04:00Comments on The CRPG Addict: Knights of Legen...Wait for It...d.CRPG Addicthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-15410115766880123082021-10-10T22:07:37.779-04:002021-10-10T22:07:37.779-04:00I haven't read ahead yet, but I just wanted to...I haven't read ahead yet, but I just wanted to say I'm really glad you stuck this game out. I've never played it, but I remember starting longingly at screenshots of it in the Origin catalog that came in my copy of Ultima V so it still gives me a twinge of nostalgia.Romhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17424138564206888866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-3451595807322895732020-01-26T03:57:18.506-05:002020-01-26T03:57:18.506-05:00I wonder if the reason it didn't warn you abou...I wonder if the reason it didn't warn you about Awesomea's premature christening was that, back in 1989, everyone using DOS would naturally assume that an 8-character naming convention was a universal law as immutable as entropy.asdasdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15459638043573476026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-2284568352555581192013-11-24T20:12:15.554-05:002013-11-24T20:12:15.554-05:00South Park? What the hell is that? Never heard of ...South Park? What the hell is that? Never heard of it.Kenny McCormickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553499727945099493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-58365009298664400462013-11-23T15:58:23.332-05:002013-11-23T15:58:23.332-05:00Sorry, I just had to say it: The character in the ...Sorry, I just had to say it: The character in the equipment screen looks like Robo-Streisand (and that's not even the first South Park reference in this thread!).<br />Your screens with the trainers refusing to train gives me the idea of an RPG world in which basically every NPC is hostile to the character. People hate you, merchants don't trade with you, barkeepers don't serve you and so on... Maybe they don't like you because you're the hundreth group of wanna be-heroes to come into town and the people have become annoyed. That could be a quite immersive setting...Alexander Sebastian Schulzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15135338616598357444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-75862940989939210852013-05-15T22:17:56.601-04:002013-05-15T22:17:56.601-04:00I think getting a feel for the game overall is mor...I think getting a feel for the game overall is more important then mapping out each and every action and quest. Canageekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770924810559440307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-84779354360658838832013-05-07T16:52:48.590-04:002013-05-07T16:52:48.590-04:00@CRPG Addict
For the record: I did not advocate a...@CRPG Addict<br /><br />For the record: I did not advocate abandoning the game right now. Just if it becomes impossible to continue because you can't train your characters and thus have to start over in order to win the game.Ragnarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-60952288568181270012013-05-07T10:39:28.861-04:002013-05-07T10:39:28.861-04:00Honestly the game wouldn't be that great to pl...Honestly the game wouldn't be that great to play single player. Back in the day it was always about having multiple people to play against. Worrying even though you bought a room from the inn and settled in for the night, someone could still payoff the innkeeper and bust into your room and challenge you.CCG_Cncfreakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08124218931601613950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-45457510789246563192013-05-07T06:53:34.499-04:002013-05-07T06:53:34.499-04:00I remember the version of LoRD I played had an und...I remember the version of LoRD I played had an underworld, so you'd play until your actions were nearly used up, get killed to play through the land of the dead in hopes of finding a crystal of resurrection, which revived your character with full actions. The only downside to this was if you didn't find a crystal you started the next day in the land of the dead. You could only hope to find one crystal per day.<br /><br />In fact, the version I played was Legend of the Green Dragon. In fact, it's the first link in google and still active it seems. It's a remake of LoRD. I hope you don't mind the link Chet: http://www.lotgd.net/about.phpZenic Reveriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16441583549326102945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-40767114103363431022013-05-07T01:35:02.879-04:002013-05-07T01:35:02.879-04:00Sorry you had to go through all that trouble, Nath...Sorry you had to go through all that trouble, Nathan. I figured out the discrepancy: there are two trainers in Htron. I was thinking "Zachary" was the other one.<br /><br />VK, true. We should have specified weapon crafting.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-38170843590466751262013-05-07T01:30:38.579-04:002013-05-07T01:30:38.579-04:00I appreciate everyone's comments. I personally...I appreciate everyone's comments. I personally want to finish the game, so you're going to have to suffer through some more entries before the end. But I'll probably play other games in between, like I did tonight.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-51661916142091185672013-05-07T01:28:54.158-04:002013-05-07T01:28:54.158-04:00I wish I could say I noticed that, but a reader in...I wish I could say I noticed that, but a reader in a previous entry had to point that out. I felt like a bit of an idiot.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-2090396765569514592013-05-07T01:28:18.162-04:002013-05-07T01:28:18.162-04:00If you know a lot about LoRD, feel free to write o...If you know a lot about LoRD, feel free to write offline. It looks like technically it can still be played, but I couldn't get the DOS executables provided by the site to run, and I guess I really don't understand the whole genre. It appeared to me that there was no way for me, now, to play the game as it existed in 1989.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-72839663116494429332013-05-07T01:26:46.673-04:002013-05-07T01:26:46.673-04:00Thanks. A bad game doesn't necessarily make a ...Thanks. A bad game doesn't necessarily make a bad blog entry; in fact, sometimes the opposite is true.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-64990507729577743152013-05-07T01:26:11.736-04:002013-05-07T01:26:11.736-04:00Don't worry; I plan to finish this one, even i...Don't worry; I plan to finish this one, even if I have to intersperse other games with the KoL postings--as I just did.CRPG Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238237377918550322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-7877725636440706912013-05-07T00:04:18.020-04:002013-05-07T00:04:18.020-04:00It is taking longer than usual to complete this ga...It is taking longer than usual to complete this game. I am enjoying the review as much as anyone, I think, but it could very well be a good time to move on.<br /><br />I certainly do think that the whole training issue is moot. The first people to play this game when it came out also did had no access to the trainers meant for future episodes. In this sense it is not a "broken" game by any means. <br /><br />I have definitely enjoyed this review, having heard so much about the potential of this game in random posts/forums but never anything with detailed descriptions such as what is in the Addict's posts. I think this would have been a wonderful game back when your selection of RPG's was next to nil and no-one had dreamed yet of something like Baldur's Gate or Skyrim. What a pain in the butt it must have been back then, however, with the usual 1-2 min long load times and several disk swaps.<br /><br />Seeing Legend of the Red Dragon on your list made me pine for the days of the BBS a little bit. I remember me and my buddy eagerly anticipating our next turn in LoRD (You only get one turn/24 hrs). One turn consists of anywhere between 25-45 not so random battles, a trip to the inn to talk with the bartender, buying the next set of weapons/armor and slaughtering 2-3 other players. Then, the next day, (depending on what time the Sysop has it set to become a new "game day"), repeat this process. Don't get me wrong, its a very fun 5 minute a day distraction, but it is not a true crpg (Even though it probably meets most of your set criteria). <br /><br />It did give me the urge to try it out once again. Luckily there are still people running the game over a telnet app on your web browser, so I was able to get my fix in. I remember logging in to the local BBS here with my dads computer. The BBS was named "The Challenger" and it was my first experience with anything of that nature. I think this was before what the internet became what it is now. The Challenger had several games you could play. They were all in the same vein as LoRD, but some cost money to access. LoRD, however, was free.<br /><br />Playing a round right now, loving it. Good times :)<br /><br />Ryan GRyanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14331313770481410555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-91628609186565336372013-05-06T20:43:36.269-04:002013-05-06T20:43:36.269-04:00I would like you to keep at this game Chet, I find...I would like you to keep at this game Chet, I find reading your journeys through unusual, flawed, or just outright bad games just as entertaining as your journeys through the good ones. It gives us all a good reminder of what makes good games good, at the very least, and as you are now taking a more historical approach to things you may well be the only reference for some of these games!Mikrakovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02359946565373258773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-92039454787094592902013-05-06T14:27:57.676-04:002013-05-06T14:27:57.676-04:00I still admire your ability to catch so many detai...I still admire your ability to catch so many details interwoven in pleasant narrative structure. I really look forward to that book.Ragnarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-9803876486426709282013-05-06T14:25:41.062-04:002013-05-06T14:25:41.062-04:00I'd suggest he abandons the game if it becomes...I'd suggest he abandons the game if it becomes too hard to progress and there are no trainers to use. Although this is a game that ideally should lend itself to be really replayable, the tediousness of the interface and the long battles make it a really tough decision to start over.Ragnarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-5811921125344441792013-05-06T09:28:30.411-04:002013-05-06T09:28:30.411-04:00Mediocre game, but your comments still make it a n...Mediocre game, but your comments still make it a nice treat to read. It seems to be a case of great design and poor development, but I am just reading your comment; I have not played the game myself. <br /><br />I can relate to sense of drama and emotional rush in desparate combat. Wizardry VII has been giving me plenty of recent. I have had at least two or three battles with characters dead and only one ressurection potion avaliable. I admit having to save scum sometimes, much to my shame. I am going to try and follow your lead and use the save less and less and see what happens. <br /><br />Thanks again for a great blog. JJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-40756617203407469792013-05-06T09:24:19.597-04:002013-05-06T09:24:19.597-04:00I think technically Ultima IV's spell mixing c...I think technically Ultima IV's spell mixing can qualify as the first crafting in RPGs. VKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-56320778154524058682013-05-06T09:11:12.279-04:002013-05-06T09:11:12.279-04:00Been following this blog for a couple years now an...Been following this blog for a couple years now and really love reading about the old rpgs i've played through out the years. Answering the question on Legend of the Red Dragon, it's a BBS door game. I hope to have my BBS back up this week after a long hiatus and of course it will be on there with about 200 other games. Chet please keep this up, I love your writing style as this blog is very engaging and fun.CCG_Cncfreakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08124218931601613950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-39674312586715874392013-05-06T08:16:44.364-04:002013-05-06T08:16:44.364-04:00"I'd rather just be friends, okay?"
..."I'd rather just be friends, okay?"<br /><br />You sir won my first Monday morning laugh!UbAhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13447678457902055799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-69966159588991260892013-05-06T07:21:58.306-04:002013-05-06T07:21:58.306-04:00In some games getting to a trainer to learn just t...In some games getting to a trainer to learn just the basics of a certain skill is delibarately placed in a later area. So yea I would avoid messing about haxxing it unless it was an obvious game bug or plain stupid design plan. Greatswords and halberds are both large weapons (in most games doing more damage than most other weapons) so some sytems often want your fighters to 'graduate' first with longswords and such.Borothnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-66294059961350799022013-05-06T06:31:13.113-04:002013-05-06T06:31:13.113-04:00I suppose you wanted me to confront my own fanboyi...I suppose you wanted me to confront my own fanboyism.<br /><br />"Zachary (..) doesn't appear to train on the greatsword"<br /><br />I had to make a character and go all the way up to Htron. I spend 30 min, knowing how to use the shortcut (> and < and numpad primarily), and fleeing some hard fight. My lone Usip managed to win once again a Giant. I made it to Htron:<br /><br />Zachary DO train Greatsword : http://imgur.com/J4jciNl<br /><br />The max in my comment are from a trainer who start training at 0 skill (except for Elven Bow , the min is 15 skill). You just have to find the right trainer but if it's listed, he exist. But I did not take NPC racial prejudice into account.<br /><br /><br />Yeah calling "crafting" the Ingot quest is a bit of a stretch. But it could have been the 1st real crafting if you had to choose between a hilt and a wood stick to build a sword or the halberd. Once again a missed opportunity.<br />Nathan Pymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13672524583329369999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6162314467762792782.post-7532677444678886282013-05-06T04:10:00.266-04:002013-05-06T04:10:00.266-04:00Your comment about what a silly name "Htron&q...Your comment about what a silly name "Htron" is just made be realize (for the first time in 24 years) that it's "North" spelled backwards. Which is fitting given its position on the map.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com